The new N word: The F word!

But this thread is referring to the fact that people are being so thin-skinned about this on a multitude of levels.

"But Robo, Spud famously pointed you out as the biggest snowflake in SGM! Where do you have any right to try to bring your liberal snowflake agendas into this?!"

He's banned, for a good reason. You're being a snowflake more so by continuing to censor. Lastly, I only ever disallowed the use of the n-word in all walks of life and uses.

Btw Darth I'm gonna try to point out for you before continuing with Rick and actually having to get Xpro's thread closed down when it's fighting a valid topic. If a person's personally made title doesn't say anything about them what does.



EDIT: Btw whenever I just happen to name drop spud within the next week he tends to return whether from exile or just being offline alot. In any case, hi spud glad I cant see any of your comments because the ignored function was fixed.

 

I don't understand how you can be so intelligent and so thick skulled. My thoughts are irrelevant? My voice adds to the community. It may be a small voice but that doesn't matter. I know its not my server that's why I voiced my concern because I would like to help the side that thinks its dumb. If you read the thread not everyone agrees with you. I haven't said once that its dumb without reasons, yet you never address what I actually say. I don't care if people care that I think their thin-skinned nor do I care if people read what I actually write, because I'm happy just knowing that I can say my mind. None of what I said was based on people being thin skinned it was based on what I see as selective enforcement of rules to cater to groups and how I view that has hypocritical. I don't understand how a developer for the community can just easily ignore what people say and make up what others says.

Legit though I am out.

 

This point reminds me when I tried to help point out how dumb of a decision it was for Highwon to ban all of the ppl from 4/11 permanently and was told "this isn't your community so you can get the fork out if you dont like it." Bless


So when is this rule getting changed? I think we got our points across clearly, validly, and effectively. Not a meme btw.

 

what a joke

Can we please stop approaching everything as harassment? The word has been devaluated so much from its original meaning. If youre offended by something it doesnt mean its nearly anywhere close to harassment. Just look away from the fucking screen nigga.
And im actually not trying to be toxic. Im just saying if we keep using the snowflake mentality of anything being potentially offensive to someone not being ok, we aint gonna make the situation any better really.

 

how are we not making things any better
like
this is legitimately all white straight people being like "youre denying me my rights by not letting me say these slurs!!"
pocs and lgbt people, who actually had their rights taken away from them "uhhhh how about you actually empathise with other people bc these are actually offensive, can you just like... not use them"
white straight peeps: "shut up youre dumb you don't know anything, these words don't mean the same as they did a long time ago"

like
BEING gay only became legal 2 years before i was born in my country
this isn't historical shit
grow up and take some damn responsibility for your actions

 

I read over everything but this is just a point I'd want taken away:
Protecting everyone from words they dislike is dangerous in society as a whole. However, limiting those words in private groups is not. It just means there is a desire to maintain some level of decorum. When it comes down to it, different words have different meanings, and some of them are a hot-button issue in the current cultural climate, fostering more

That's dumb as fuck though. Yes, being accepted as gay was a historically recent thing. The generations you just tried to imply was bigoted towards gays, unless I am drastically misinterpreting what you said, is the same generations that approved them into our society.

We are not our ancestors. We are different people, and what happened to the past, while it should be a valuable tool of learning, is not the same as what is happening today. I will take responsibility for my actions: Being an inclusive person who views people on their personality and actions than their gender, race, or orientation. To say you are responsible for crimes of your ancestor is asinine, and it is why the acceptance, tolerance, and unity that generations have worked so hard to build is devolving into segregation and hate based off your skin colour.

I am a white male. I owe black people nothing. I owe women, nothing. I myself have always been Bisexual, with a preference towards men. I have done nothing to them. I try to avoid people in general, in real life, and online such details are meaningless.

 

People in sgm always find something to argue about lol

 

And no, the amount of stupidity in this post was lost on me until second reading. We aren't saying "We are white, let us do what we want". Or, at least, I am not.
What I am saying is we need to move on. We need to look past our history if we want to create a world were everyone can truly be equal, and treated the same. People like you create differences between whites and blacks, straights and gays. You, and people like you, are going to be the reason racism, sexism, and bigotry live on through the modern eras, because you want to give certain people special statuses different from everyone else, based off their race, sex, or orientation. It creates decisiveness. It creates violence. And it makes you a racist and a bigot.

I never thought I would ever here someone say "Lets bring back segregation in schools" until it came from a black woman's mouth because they don't want to be around white people. For no other reason than they are white.

 

Oh look a thread created xprop that resulted in a shitfest of comments (I <3 you xprop )

 

Banning a word gives it power. Ignoring the use of the word and showing you don't care takes away that power. But the problem is that you're saying that we should just let people say whatever hurtful things they want until they get bored and forget and move on. Maybe if every LGBT person was willing to not take offense to the word then sure this would work. But your 'solution' is to tell an entire group of people to swallow their feelings and let themselves be harassed. You're not saying "we're white, let us do what we want." But you're also not understanding that it's not just as simple as telling us to let people walk all over us until they get bored.

 

Not even a little bit. You challenge people when they say words like that to offend. You use those words in ways that aren't racist, aren't sexist, aren't bigoted, until their fundamental definition and use is changed. You fight it, and you fight for your rights, like every single person until now who fought for gay rights, who fought against racism, has. Not by sheltering yourself from negativity, but by proving that negativity to be wrong.

 

The truest sign to inclusivity of any group is when you can openly make jokes about that group and nobody gets offended.

 

You're missing my point. It's not that simple. It's easy enough to say that when you're not the one directly affected by these slurs. I understand your point, but it's not easy for an entire group of people to just say, hey I don't care if you want to say something incredibly offensive about me. If your solution was implemented it would work. But the problem is I'm implementing the solution on the first place. You can't just tell an entire group of people to let people say whatever they want about them and not take offense.

 

Love how your basis is not discriminating but you stereotype white straight males. And dont come w the white people cant be discriminated against bs
Also, im half latino and half black.
what a joke

EDIT: also, how the fuck do you dare to say take responsibility for your actions knowing virtually nothing about me or what ive been through in life.
And lastly, pretty much nothing you said has to do w my original argument. Im not saying that calling someone a faggot is ok (all the contrary), im saying its childish to censor a word completely ignoring its context

 

Neither white people nor straight people have been systematically oppressed or discriminated against. Nobody is saying white people or straight people can't be harassed, just that they haven't had to deal with the systematic discrimination that minorities have.

 

The first step is to stop treating the behavior like it's taboo. It's not easy, it's not simple, and that's why it needs to be promoted more and more, because, as a world, we are rapidly devolving to a place where sheltering people from anything that might harm them is more important than teaching people to deal with those harms. Women didn't get the right to vote by saying "Shut up, don't be a sexist".

 

Systematic oppresion is an illusion. If youre different you cant expect a system to adapt for you (even though its happening cause people get offended by it not happening), you have to adapt to the system like everybody else.
White people and straight people not being oppressed? Modern college campuses? Black Lives Matter? Antifa?
Nigga please.

 

A lot, and I mean a LOT of people are saying that white people or straight people, particularly males, cannot be harassed. Again, the sins of thy father are not your own.
I have faced so much discrimination and harassment in just my school life that I am absolutely certain that anything less than pure, undiluted racism cannot even compare to my experience, but if I so much as mention that, because I am a white male, I am told my experiences don't matter.

 

Id honestly give extra context for all this but I really dont care enough and if you do you can look up examples yourself. Fact is (and this is coming from someone of color and has colored heritage) racism and discrimination against whites (at least in america) is at its peak rn.

 

Yo, can we, like, not name-drop me this much
Please don't use my name as a means to belittle opposition to your standpoint.
Thanks

For the muh-freedom-brigade: Don't be disrespectful toward others.
For the feels-over-reals-company: Don't let random people ruin your day / life with mean words, care as much for what they say as they care about you (Not at all).
For the ban-power-battalion: A word has the power you attribute to it. A banned word can have as much or little power as a widely used word. The only difference is whether edgy teens are drawn to it or not. Slurs should hold no power over you, but inversely you should not seek to use slurs; it's trashy behaviour.

Just live and let live, people. I honestly don't understand why this is a big deal.
As happy as I'd be to not worry about every stray slur, given that I personally don't care, I see no reason to allow for wanton use of slurs for previously elaborated-upon reasons
If you're talking about a fag as a cigarette, be my guest, but you could just as well call it a cig.