Sir Lemoncakes is the traitor!

This is hax.

 

This is all just a difference in opinion on the message behind the picture/spray. For instance, the rule for sprays is no gore or porn sprays. I have a spray of Al Gore. I have it just to be silly because it is taking the meaning of "gore spray" literally. Some people might get a laugh out of it whereas others may see it as flaunting around the rules. Would either opinion be right or wrong in the interpretation of the image/spray? No, they would not. As for your picture Snak, while it may seem unfair that Sir Lemoncakes asked you to change your profile pic, he is only doing it to keep people from taking it out of context and getting upset because they felt offended by it.

 

Lmao high quality photoshop

 

Honestly, this whole thing is ridiculous. Sasha Grey isn't just a pornstar(Well, not even a pornstar anymore), she's also a very talented woman. I find it really disrespectful that you consider her "Inappropriate" for the server just because she used to be in porn videos, and you(The admins defending lemon) say things like "You're comparing a pornstar to a normal person"

Normal? Wtf? Pornstars ARE normal people. We're all humans, and saying that pornstars aren't suitable to be seen even when they're clothed and it's just a face shot is absolutely disgusting. There's nothing wrong with Snak's picture, and if you really lose an admin over this, that'd be stupid, especially when Snak is fully within his right to go this far over this. It's not just some simple spray, it's the idea behind asking him to change the spray that a lot of us are pissed off about.

 

#biggest topic on forums

 

I don't think it was right of sir to ask snak to take of a picture a a girl he liked ... I'm sure if there was a 12 year old playing he wouldn't go and look up who that girl was or what she did and for adults who look at what there child is doing dont you think a shooting game would be more of a consern than a picture a guy has on .... If a parent has to say I don't like what that guy has as his spray they are not good parents because there letting there child play a shooting game ........just saying ......

 

Well some kids do play this game.

 

Yea and if they play this game then why would there parents care about a use to be porn star if there kid is playing a shooting game

 

Because there are parents out there that think that shooting games aren't that big of a deal, because a lot of parents believe exposing children to shooting games is fine as long as you make sure they understand the difference between virtuality and reality.

When children are possibly exposed to sex, which could have happened in this case, that is something parents do not want their child exposes to; primarily because you can't differentiate between virtuality and reality. With an average child's life, most parents want them to keep them sheltered as long as possible; especially fathers and their little girls. Sex is out there and the spray could potentially expose a child to things like pornography and sexual acts before their parent has a chance to explain it to them; there are also certain legal actions that could take place if someone could link the pornographic exposure to the initial person.

I know that there could actually be some female video gamers that may not know who that is, but all they have to do is ask and someone tells them. The next thing you know, they're on Google and they're offended; same possibility as a minor except maybe their parent happens to walk into the room or check their search history.

I know it seems like it could never happen, but being a person who, if I want to practice medicine on the outside of the military, needs to obtain liability insurance. People create civil cases over whatever they can just to get whatever they can.

 

Pls stop using broken logic, you're giving the people you're trying to argue with more ammo that they shouldn't have by making points that aren't true but that they can use.

 

There's no way that someone could create a civil suit out of Snak's spray being a porn star when there's no nudity whatsoever. If people are offended by porn stars existing, that's their problem, I honestly don't see how you're making the argument of "People will be offended when they realize who Sasha Grey is", it's simply not true.

 

This is what I'm going to say this thread is clearly not necessary as lemon Is clearly in the wrong for making snak change his picture Sasha Grey is a retired pornstar,and now she writes books,and has done two very popular songs with eminem,and clearly she's a better person than hitler,and don't even compare a picture of her to hitler,hitler committed fucking genocide,all Sasha Grey did was porn,and now she doesent because she realized it is wrong,and she has moved on to better things than you will ever do in your life,because she is talented at things besides sex,and she's realized that,so she quit,because she deserves better,all snaks pic is is a young woman nowhere does it say Sasha grey either.

 

Let me make this clear:

As a staff member, you aren't entitled to anything. You can be subject to any decisions a superior makes.

You are supposed to listen to your superiors. Snak felt entitled to having the avatar because of his opinions. Sir Lemoncakes felt that Snak shouldn't have the avatar because it doesn't reflect the server well.

Sir Lemoncakes did nothing wrong. Snak decided to resign and start this thread, Snak is at fault. If Snak had handled it properly he would have gone to Highwon about it. And if Highwon told him to change it he most likely would have.

Sir Lemoncakes already expressed it wasn't his intention to have Snak demoted(which didn't happen). Snak made an assumption and resigned. If Snak had kept it private and gone to Highwon directly this all could have been avoided.

 

Yea that's not the issue it's that why does lemon care I remember him on making fun of religion saying there is no reason to believe,so if he can offend religion,and try to change everyone else's opinion what the hell is snak doing wrong here Lemon insulted religion which is a big thing saying "there is no good reason except why not" sir lemoncakes kept saying stuff like this in chat,and in my opinion I'm more offended by someone changing someone elses opinion on religion,and in ways offending people me and snak were the staff on with him at the time.

 

This is ridiculous.. This game is rated M for mature audiences of 17+. Do you know what a mature audience is? A mature audience wouldn't be offended by Hitler or an ex porn star. I mean, this is a fucking war game, where people shoot each other in the face for fun. So i think that have Hitler as a spray would be perfectly acceptable as he was a war general. I mean seriously, I see people on the server try and keep it PG and then i remind them that the game itself is rating M for 17+ year olds. If you are under 17 and offended by something in the game... THAT'S WHY ITS RATED M AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING IT. I respect Highwon's decision (although i do disagree with it, including the part about hitler). I understand that staff should be held to a higher standard but this is a rated M game and i think anything belonging in that category should be allowed.

 

That's a pretty valid point I must say

 

Counter Strike: Source is rated M, but Gary's Mod actually has no ESRB rating.

 

The thing is, I can literally guarantee that will never happen. On the slight chanced instance some underage player asks "Who is that?" Snak would say "Sasha, man." Or something along the lines.

Compared to the other things the admins of this server and the players in general have VERBALLY discussed, this is nothing. Afraid of seeing porn because someone may ask a question about a picture. But yet the grotesque things we all talk about through mic isn't something to be worried about. #logic

 

He didn't want this avoided, obviously. I'm glad he brought this up in the forums. Makes me see some things about this server a little clearer. I think what Snak did was right. He may not be "entitled to anything", but as a person he made the choice to play the game he likes, the way he likes. All he was trying to do was help out on a server he loves while he was playing. Since he couldn't be comfortable and play at the same time, he resigned. I respect that beyond anything else this server has done.

 

He has the choice to play the game as he likes, yes. But the purpose of staff is to moderate the choices players make and prevent them from harming the general gameplay.

So although he has the choice to do what he likes, that can get him demoted. Which is what Snak is saying, is that he was "forced" to resign(which he wasn't).

This was over an avatar. It's extremely odd that him not being able to have an avatar he wants would make it "uncomfortable" for him. I wasn't able to have a spray I liked as a staff member because of the rules that apply to staff, but I didn't make a big deal about it.