Rejected Rule Change

Le epic racism, dude.

 

You don't get what people have stated several times, slurs can be very selective, I can call you a hick and you don't take any offense to it, but someone else might, should it be included in the banned slurs? What about a raghead? up here, that word is almost as bad as calling someone a nigger, it's only reason to be in existence is to make fun of, insult people who wear turbans.

 

The thing you're asking for already exists. If people are SPAMMING nigger, they'll get hit with spam punishment. If people are directing slurs towards people, there's the harassment Punishments.

One more thing, too: the whole reason edgy kids say this shit is to piss people like you off. There's no reason to take a bloody word so personal when it's just being used to piss you off... They're like bullies, just ignore them and they stop caring lmao....

 

Here's the thing.

They don't get punished. All they get is a warning. And as soon as mods come on all of a sudden they're goodie two shoes. Also do you think I try NOT to ignore these kinds of people? Of course I fucking ignore them. Except if they stopped caring and cut out then I wouldn't have made this thread.

The issue is that ignoring and reporting these people hardly does anything because they can just keep on doing it for way longer than they should be allowed. Which is not at all.

Oh but no, i'll just let people say whatever they want. It's just words right? No. Black people weren't slaves for hundreds of years so some white kid from North Dakota can scream "n*GGER!" all day. Gay people haven't been fighting for their years for nearly as long so that anyone can just call anyone a "f*ggot" just cause they dislike them. Asians didn't get their fucking heads run over just so some idiot in GMod can scream "ZIPPERHEAD" over and over.

 

The warning is the punishment. Should they continue, they will get banned.

Well, when mods are off, get this.... none of the rules are able to be enforced. I know, it's kinda crazy... but regardless what the rules are, NOBODY CAN ENFORCE THE RULES WHEN THE MODS AREN'T ON. So, of course they're gonna act better when they get on.... so uh, maybe fucking report them or get off your high horse.

I mean.... yeah they kinda are just words. You think that 14 year old who's mommy said "Don't say nigger at church!" are really trying to say "Gee willy those damn negros need to get back to pickin' cotton, that stupid nigger in the oval office... IT'S CALLED THE WHITE HOUSE HELLO!?" No, they're just trying to be edgy because it pisses you off.

also uh... if they should never be allowed to say it then... you better ban yourself

that's a racial slur so check your white privilege

Listen buddy: Apparently before Opalium (like... a year ago lmao) this rule didn't even exist. There was no problems back then with this kind of shit, and the only reason there's problems right now is because people like you are making them. They are just words said by a retard online -- get over it.

 

I have no idea where everyone’s getting the idea that you weren’t punished for slurs before Opalium?

It’s been a punishable offence since 2013 for using such words. Even if they weren’t aimed at anyone and no one ever complained about it.

Yikes in this thread at some of the comparisons being made though.

 

First of all, if you were being called the N word and you took offense to it the person should have been warned. If they weren't warned and the staff member threw up some bs excuse like "that isn't harassment" report them. Keep in mind that the staff are still trying to adjust to the changes. I'll admit, more discussion and notification should have been given, but I honestly don't think that Highwon realize the level of shit this would stir.

What this rule change does, and all it really does, is make it so that we don't warn right away for the N word and the F word. We warn based on the context the word was used in. Most times it is used to harass people, and so it really doesn't change very much. The next context it is used in is to spam, which is against the rules. The last context, and the one people get so bent of out shape about, is the edgelords who say it to be edgy. These people are rather annoying, I will admit, but honestly they just make themselves look like racists. However, this racism could be seen as harassment. It all just depends on the situation.

We really don't want to be the PC police and warn people for simply saying a no no word. The people who were punished for these words never stopped, they just waited till staff left and continued. These people should be put to shame. I have no problem calling people out when they clearly are just trying to be edgy. For instance:

Did you seriously have to come into this thread and contribute nothing but that? That kind of backhand comment is what made the rule in the first place. I hope you are happy with yourself.

 

Thanks my negro

 

When I see you guys typing n***** instead of nigger it reminds me of the fully nude women that put stickers over their nipples

 

Its so bad apaprently that other servers are making fun of is for it (or at least the ones i went in when ours was dead)

 

Nobody plays gmod anymore so why is this an issue

 

Who cares what those faggots think

 

faggits

 

I tried tracing the origins awhile back to when we started punishing purely for “nigger”. From what I could gather, it happened sometime before Opalium’s tenures. Seemed to be something that developed out of an administrative/lead administrative talks and trickled its way through the staff team. However, the ruling/punishments did seem to get a fair amount more of attention/limelight under Opalium’s leadership though, with myself being pretty hard on it.

It was a change that was made without much (if any) community/moderator feedback in the first place. Feedback was gathered from the administration team this time before going through the change, as they ultimately would be the ones who would be training moderators what to punish for and what not to. Unofficially, I also gathered some community feedback awhile back with moderators and shoutbox people for a good half hour.

 

I used to gag and mute every time I heard either words back in 2016-17

 

Only cuz he didn’t wanna get banned off twitch duh

 

Am I missing something here? What does the rule change have to do with what people do when no mods are on? Wouldn't they still do the same thing if there was a rule against it, since there are no mods on?

 

Either just ban all slurs outright or make it legal to call someone a slur, you can't try to have a middle ground or else shit like this happens.