make micspam no longer a bannable offense

also why? mic spam is one of the most annoying things to encounter in a full server. can you imagine having 5 people blaring into their mic and not being able to ban them? I mean, yeah, you could just leave them gagged, but they will get auto ungagged on map change, and will just do it again. Why keep them in the server?

 

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This is like saying RDM should be allowed because we have karma. If someone is being toxic, why keep them around?

 

staff can’t mute players since we still have to moderate them. And why should mic spam not be punishable? that’s like saying mass RDM shouldn’t be ban able since we can just keep slaying them. The reason for the ban is because it’s evident that they will keep RDMing, this will stop them for 5+ days. Whereas if you just slay them, they will RDM someone else and ruin their round.

Can you tell me why mic spam shouldn’t be punished the same way? Why that type of toxic behavior should just be allowed? Is someone who is purposefully being a troll or spamming the type of person we want playing on the servers? Keep in mind these punishments are meant to keep the server fun and playable for everyone else. They aren’t there because we don’t want that specific person to have fun, it’s that they are doing it at the expense of everyone else

 

You do bring up a good point. Perhaps there is some room for discussion on putting in a 3rd offense gag. Maybe a map gag? But the next question is still the same. Why put the responsibility on the entire rest of the server to find and mute someone? Especially when one staff member can do it. I would also be down for reducing the mic spam ban for 3rd offense, and adding a 4th offense. But while individual mic spam might seem like a minor offense compared to RDM (which it normally is), it has a much higher ceiling than RDM does. A server with just 3 mic spammers is so much harder to staff than a server with even 10 RDMers. I am more lenient when it comes to mic spam, and will only gag for random loud “funny” noises if it’s contributing to already existing mic spam. Mic spam in a full server is a lot different than mic spam in a 10 player server. The only time I think i’ve ever banned for micspam on a server under 20 players is when it’s genuinely been earape.

And another point against your “mute button” argument: Staff cannot mute people locally. We have to keep everyone unmuted to listen for KOSes and micspam. I am for sure open to a discussion for reducing mic spam punishment, or changing protocol, but I am hole heartedly against removing the ban aspect. At some point rather than keeping them in the server, they gotta go if all they are doing is causing trouble.

 

We do need to hear KOSes tho. Just because they can be called out in chat, doesn’t mean that they aren’t coming out from a mic. The reason staff need to here KOSes more than anyone else is his scenario: Player A gets killed by Player B. Player B claims it was because of a KOS called by Player C, or they don’t remember who called it. But since staff have Player C locally muted, they cant prove if they did or did not call the KOS, so the report would end as word vs word.

I said as Staff mic spammers are much more difficult than RDMers. If someone is mic spamming or plays a trumpet while you’re doing reports, you have to stop doing those reports and try and catch who did it. If you have multiple people talking and someone spamming in the middle of it, making it impossible to tell who it is, it is very difficult to catch them. Now if you add 2 more intentional mic spammers to the mix, and it becomes pretty toxic and loud.

I can do 30 reports in 1 map ez, but if I have a much of mic spammers I have to deal with, that number gets reduced greatly

Also gonna throw in that I don’t think i’ve every banned someone that didn’t mean to mic spam. If you accidentally spam loudly 3 times, that is extremely unlucky, but even then, probably wouldn’t get you a ban. I only have ever gotten to the point of banning people who are clearly intentionally mic spamming. I don’t remember the last time we had an appeal for a mic spammer, because 99% of the time, they are just there to troll