tloCK* on current RDM ban

Discussion in 'TTT Ban Appeals' started by theteutonic, Dec 28, 2013.

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  1. theteutonic

    theteutonic Active Member

    Your In Game Nickname:tloCK*
    Your Steam ID:confused:TEAM_0:0:5380846
    Which Server: TTT West (1?)

    I still have unanswered questions as to why my kills were considered rdm, so I have constructed a timeline in hopes you will be able to point out which one(s) of my 9 traitor kills were in violation. Note that the number is quite high even over the span of two rounds and that there were only two mods (rambo and nope trash) on a server with 30+ people to deal with all the reports, and from my experience as an admin it is perfectly understandable if they saw the overwhelming reports and decided to ban me. However, I would like Nope Trash or Rambo to respond to this and point out where I rdm'd since they were supposedly spectating me for the last two rounds where this occurred.

    The map we were on had the slums, one tall central building and backstreets all around, forgot the name of it. Down by the train station where there is only one entrance, the rampway, I see an afk detective as well as Lex Luthor and stunt, stunt looks at me so I decided to leave in hopes of baiting the traitors into killing the afk detective. I leave the immediate area and turn back around to see if they had killed the detective, and there was an unid'd detective body on the ground. I ask over the mic "what happened here" and there was no immediate response so I killed stunt(who had a magneto stick out) and lex luthor who was holding a scout(the detective was headshotted by a scout) both for not identifying the body, a traitorous act as stated in your motd. I'd like to point out that lex luthor reported me in spite of all this, unable to comprehend how easy it is for someone to point him out as a traitor, but instead he lies about it in his report saying I couldn't have seen him, etc, etc, even when he was in direct view of the unid'd body, making no attempts to id it.

    The next situation was sometime towards the end of the round, and there were over 10 bodies, id'd and unid'd on the rooftop of the central building. When I got up there, I had start to id the bodies, and coming out of the staircase was Rhydic as well as another person who had been called out the entire round. Rhydic stood behind this kos'd person and I looked at the two of them for a good two seconds then dropped both of them. One was the kos'd traitor, the other was a traitor who didn't acknowledge the kos. From my understanding, I was not allowed to kill Rhydic, who acted as a traitor by refusing to kill another traitor, which doesn't really make sense to me. I had been told this was rdm but I had never been slayed for it. I feel that this rule only exists to empower traitors who are incompetent at the game, which doesn't make too much sense as they already have an advantage through equipment and the element of surprise. Why should I not be allowed to use my own perceptiveness to my advantage? I count the number of traitors every round at the beginning of the round as an innocent and I type out the numbers in the chat like 888, 77777, etc etc as a way for me to keep track of how many traitors there are, no one told me to stop, and it's helped me gauge the situation of the round many times. If I didn't use any thinking in playing an innocent, then how can you possibly expect the game to be anything but a one-sided massacre of innocents?

    In the last situation of the first round, I saw Link and another person running around looking at me together, while they are practically standing side to side. I had no proof they are the traitors, however by looking at their positioning, I had a good suspicion, so I ran off to the train station area, hoping to get some time before I had to fight them. They arrive there and at this point I was ready to shoot the moment they shot at me. When they started shooting at me, I immediately killed one while Link backs up to find cover. The third and final traitor arrives too and when he refused to shoot Link and started shooting at me I killed him as well. I finish off Link and the total for the round was I believe 7 traitors. The only one which you might have problems with was Rhydic, who was killed because he did not kill someone who was kos.


    The next round, rsancho and various others starts shouting adamantly about how I'm a ghoster, while others in the chat like Anon are telling them I'm just good, etc etc. It wasn't the first time I've been accused of hacking/ghosting but there was no way for me to address each one of my kills and explain what I had done in the chat since everyone was shouting at the same time. Nope Trash and Rambo did NOT make any comments to me or on the subject, so I didn't make any explanations, I ignored the rdm report from Lex Luthor because he's ignorant for thinking I had rdm'd him when I had proper proof to kill him. I'd like to suggest that false reports be punished by some means since they are easily abused and can lead to general mass chaos for the mods/admins when theres 10 of them every round.

    This round, I killed two traitors, at the very end of the round since for the most of the round I had been running around trying to explain myself for the previous round.
    Towards the end, I call out live checks as well as listen to the general noise level of the map, I didn't see anyone moving around, no footsteps, gunshots, and many people were still on the scoreboard so I figured I should be cautious with the rest of the people I see because chances are they're the traitors. I was in one of the backstreets surrounding the central building and I hear inside the staircase an auto shotty going off, a scream, and then afterwards no bodies Id'd on the top right. I ask them to id the bodies because it is possible that an innocent killed a traitor, but since no bodies were Id'd I assumed the person to be a traitor. Out of the staircase I see Dark Claws with an auto shotgun and he was badly wounded, I then killed him because it was OBVIOUS TO ME that he had murdered someone in the building(gunshot, scream) and yet he did not id the body, a traitorous act as in your motd, and so I killed him. You said this was only a suspicion, and I would have to disagree since every clue leading up to that would point to the fact that he did not id the body, I had no visual clues but I had auditory cues that told me everything I needed to know. After I killed dark claws, kesage comes down the staircase as well, and instead of id'ing the body I killed, which I asked him to, he starts shooting at me. At this point I had every right to kill him, and I did so.


    Shortly after the round ended, I was banned for ghosting, of which there was no proof, and from my other ban appeal, the ban duration was shortened to an rdm ban, however, there were only two cases where you can even begin to argue that I rdm'd, which was rhydic and dark claws. I would prefer if Nope Trash and Rambo were able to respond to this since they were the two that watched it all happen and are the ones who can point out any discrepancies in my story. I hope this gives you a better idea of what was going on and why I was justified in my kills, and I hope you agree that I should not be punished for playing well.
     
  2. Gonz

    Gonz Chill... VIP

    In the first situation, were the two Ts by the unid detective, did they look at it and walk away? And btw when I looked at the logs for the reports on you it seemed clear that it was rdm, and you didn't reply to the reports.
     
  3. theteutonic

    theteutonic Active Member

    Yes, stunt was staring straight at it with a magneto stick and made no attempt to id it while lex was further down the platform looking at me and in between us was the unid'd detective. You didn't ask me any questions and I got so many reports I decided to try and explain using voice chat instead
     
  4. Gonz

    Gonz Chill... VIP

    You've been unbanned.
    This topic will now be locked.
     
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