Completed Report against Kyuu

Discussion in 'TTT Staff/Player Reports' started by Python~, Aug 25, 2019.

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  1. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    Name of Staff/Player:
    Kyuu
    Steam ID of Staff/Player:
    STEAM_0:0:81511647
    Your Steam ID:

    Which Server:
    East 1
    Which Map:
    office
    Which Round:
    doesnt matter
    Time of Occurence:
    7:15 PM
    Reason For Report:
    Issuing lenient bans and not handling punishments accordingly.​
    Evidence And/Or Witnesses:
    Evidence #1:
    This stems from this report I had just made

    As you can see, he RDMed way more than just 3 players. Any decent review of the logs will reveal that. In round 6 alone -- the logs for which are on that report -- he RDMed 6 people. Kyuu seemed to just do the bare minimum, disregarding unreported damage, which is something mods should be looking into as well, especially since I made a report.

    Kyuu banned him while I was on the server so I messaged him saying that he RDMed much more than he was banned for and got no response.
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    Evidence #2:
    Now if this was one instance, I'd be fine, but he did the same on another report I made, here, about a week ago.

    Even here, it is clear he RDMed a minimum of 5 people, yet he was only banned for Mass RDM (3).

    I'm not sure if Kyuu just doesn't want to take a quick look at the logs (which would clearly show how many players these 2 offenders RDMed), or if he just wants to do the bare minimum and mark the report as Completed. If I'm going through the effort of making a report, I would appreciate if the mod handling that report would put in the effort to make sure he is punished appropriately. If the staff handling the report can't do that, why are they handling that report at all?​
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2019
  2. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

  3. Kyuu

    Kyuu The True Trap of SGM VIP

    I have seen this and will respond when I have a minute please be patient
     
  4. Kyuu

    Kyuu The True Trap of SGM VIP

    Hello, I saw the report on the forums about Asskicker47 and hopped on to deal with it and I was greeted with 3 reports on him(below) and being this player being the reason I hopped on I took care of it first before any other reports and after looking at the reports I came to the conclusion of banning the player for Mass x3 and a moment later received a pm from python saying he did way more than x3 and took that as a mental note to look into it more after I was done handling other reports at the time. When finishing up all the reports on the previous map and current map. Map switch had come around and when going to review over the reports I had screenshotted and the forum report I saw this report on me. I have nothing else to add.
    Thank you and have a good night -Kyuu

    Tagging @Kythol as my admin

     
  5. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    There's another report up there that was mishandled as well, which is why I don't believe you would have looked into the AssKicker report further if I had not messaged you. You even went so far to mark the report as completed after I had PM'd you, and didn't say anything to me.

    I also don't think you should be banning for Mass RDM without considering all the unreported damage.
     
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2019
  6. Kythol

    Kythol ok Moderator VIP

    Hey @Python~. Before starting, let me state that I am entirely unaware of the timeframe here. All I have to go off of is what both you and Kyuu have said, so if I'm wrong don't hesitate to correct me.

    I don't see anything wrong with how Kyuu handled the report. He hopped on the server, handled the reports that he saw, and had planned on going back and looking at the damage you had messaged him. However, before he had the chance to do so, he had been reported on the forums. When handling all the RDM reports open when first getting on a server, it's hard to take a good look at everything going on. You have to be able to take a quick look, make a judgement call based on what you see, and finish it or leave it to later for closer inspection. The reports that Kyuu posted as screenshots are perfect examples of a report that can be looked at and chalked up to blatant RDM. However, not everyone reports for every bit of damage or kill, which is why we need people to help point it out to us when we don't notice it. Kyuu is a new mod, only having been promoted around a week ago. While I think he has done a wonderful job so far, he's not perfect. None of the staff team are. You've got to give him some breathing room with a situation like this because he's going to be a little slow at first. Instead, you jumped the gun and reported him almost immediately.

    I feel like this entire report could have been avoided if the following two things had happened:
    1. Kyuu had better communication when you first messaged him. Believe me, I know exactly how it feels when you don't get a response. I'll be working with Kyuu on how to communicate his intentions in situations like this better.
    2. You hadn't been as quick to report Kyuu and had given him a little bit of time to work. Give him a map or so and ask him about the damage again. If you still don't get a response, then go ahead and report.
    With all of that being said, I'll leave you to respond with anything else you'd like to add before finishing this up.
     
  7. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    That's all well and good, if we're talking about a single report that was handled incorrectly, but we're not. There is another report I brought up wherein Kyuu does the same thing. Sorry if I jumped the gun and reported him too soon, but by the time I posted this report, several rounds had passed in-game and I had gotten no response.

    Please do not mark a report as completed without giving out the appropriate ban first.
    Speaking of, have they been corrected yet?
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2019
  8. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    For starters, @Kyuu had hopped on the server after I had posted the report. Obviously he wasn't on at the time, otherwise it would have been dealt with then.
    Kyuu then issues a ban and the report is marked as Completed
    I PM him and get no response back, nor was the ban re-issued or extended within several rounds and even a map change. I thought he would have ample time to correct this mistake, since it was pretty straight-forward, and especially since I brought it to his attention (which I shouldn't have to do in the first place).
    I then post this report

    The AssKicker report clearly shows 6 RDMs, and the Sam report shows at least 5, yet they were both only banned for the minimum (3) and the reports marked as completed when they were, in fact, not.
    My point with this report is a mod shouldn't be marking reports as completed when they aren't, especially when the evidence in the report proves otherwise. All @Kyuu had to do was look at the logs I posted in the reports -- or, better yet, look at the logs from the previous map when he joined -- and he would know it was more than 3 cases of RDM for both of these players.

    I don't even report for Mass RDM when it's only 3 because I know that a day ban isn't worth my time.
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2019
  9. Barlakopofai

    Barlakopofai Member

    I can vouch Kyuu is really lenient on the bans. Yesterday in chat we were all graced with "Kyu has slain *whoever the fuck it was* 1 times. He had previously been slain by Kyuu 2 times" which is paraphrased a bit but yeah, Kyuu gave 1 slay to a guy they gave 3 separate slays
     
  10. Pokeben10

    Pokeben10 tell me pretty lies Moderator VIP Silver

    Sometimes it can be hard to remember if someone had been slain previously, especially if there are several reports coming in, but I agree that Kyuu should check just to be sure.
     
  11. Kythol

    Kythol ok Moderator VIP

    Alright, with Python's confirmation of the time frame being quite short, I'm going to mark this report as invalid.

    With that being said, I'm going to make sure a few things happen:
    1. I'll be working with Kyuu on his communication (like I mentioned before).
    2. I'll take a look the other instances of RDM with Kyuu and apply the appropriate ban for them.
    3. I'll be working with Kyuu to insure that he's applying the correct amount of slays for reports.
    Please give it couple of weeks before you guys decide to report Kyuu for a similar situation. I'd like to have the time to be able to actually work with him instead of dealing with another report. If you do have any questions or concerns about this report or a future incident, please message me and I'll answer to the best of my ability (y).


    EDIT: After re-reading the original post and the edit that was made to clearly state that the second instance of something occurring was actual evidence, I'll be taking a closer look at that and posting my thoughts on it soon.
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2019
  12. Kythol

    Kythol ok Moderator VIP

    Alright, after taking a closer look at the second piece of evidence, I'll be changing the verdict of this report to valid. This is something that was dealt with incorrectly originally, and should have been changed to a more suitable ban. Alongside the things I mentioned above, I'll be working with Kyuu on how to properly handle forum reports, as when asking him it doesn't seem like that was ever explained to him. While I may not have been the admin to pick him up, I take full responsibility for not ensuring that he was aware of how to handle forum reports.
     
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