Completed Report against Jabba

Spoiler: Deathscene

Spoiler: Report

Spoiler: Logs 1

Spoiler: Logs 2

As show in the Deathscene, and you also state in your report response, you were fully aware of why Elvis killed Burgham. You both watch Burgham mow down chino.

Despite the fact that you knew exactly why Elvis killed Burgham, you killed him anyway because he killed an innocent. You also tack on some 'logic' about how chino supposedly called out an innocent, making it okay for Burgham to kill him. The validity of Burgham's kill isn't a factor at all.

The reason you were banned for this, where we would normally warn a player against this type of gameplay, as it is toxic in nature, is due to your long and significant history with toxicity. You were very recently banned for four weeks for Toxicity, among other reasons, and the ban ended up being reduced. After this incident was reported to me I saw fit to give you back the two weeks you got removed.

This ban was your SIXTH ban for Toxicity reasons on our servers. So you are correct I guess, there is a "bias" working against you when it comes to you doing toxic things. It's no secret we are a lot more harsh on people who have a history of toxic behavior. You aren't likely to be treated like 'any other player.'

Despite my better judgment though, I chose to be lenient with nilz, and gave him a strong warning to avoid killing people when he knows very well why they made their kill, as this is toxic in nature. After said warning, I removed his ban.

Now to respond to something else you mention,

Yeah, we're cracking down on trolls and toxic people. This is Serious GMod.

 

@Lordyhgm to conclude.

 

The way the game is meant to be played is everyone working together to catch the Traitors. You killed him because you could, because he reacted to someone mowing down someone in front of him.

Before I get into the meat I'll amend your statement as you have received six toxicity related bans in just the last three years. There may be people who are more toxic than you, but that doees not dismiss your own history.

You cite your last ban for toxic gameplay being in January of 2019. (Note that your recent ban from Irish was for reasons involving Toxicity, not Toxic Gameplay, there is a difference)

So let's take a look about how you have "adjusted" the way you play on our servers in the last 14 months.

You have received a total of 27 karma bans in the last 14 months, 10 of which are from the last two months alone.

In between these karma bans you collected bans for Instigating Drama, Loopholing, Micspam, Mass RDM, Slurs, and Harassment.

Bearing those punishments in mind, let us now look at all the things you weren't punished for.

We have you dropping slurs (before they were allowed) so that you would be kicked, to avoid serving two auto-slays that had been added to you. LINK

Attempting to lie to staff members that people you had RDM'd forgave you, so that you could get out of a slay(s).

Excessive traitor baiting.

Joking about players ghosting, wasting staff time in investigation.

Making a threat to find a staff members family. LINK

Lying about there being child pornography on the servers to get a staff member online. LINK

Killing players that entered the Traitor Room with you as an innocent.

Harassing staff with anti-gay slurs.

All of this, and you wonder why we treat you harshly due to your history?

 

So, my understanding of the situation as described by all of you is:
Chino KOSed Asado, but Asado was proven. As a result, Burgham killed Chino for the false KOS, which Elvis witnessed and gunned them down. Nilz killed Elvis.

At it's most basic: Nilz killed someone for killing one, possibly two, innocents having witnessed them fighting. He allowed Elvis to ID the bodies to confirm they were innocent, something often not done in a toxic kill. This is only a smidgen toxic due to having witnessed the reason for the kills and knowing that Elvis was just acting on T acts. Elvis knows he can use that to get safe-ish kills on innocents as a traitor and Nilz knows that too since they both have a whole lotta experience with TTT.

In the fuller context of the situation, we can see that Nilz actually knew why the two were fighting in the first place. This pretty much mitigates any toxicity since now we can see the train of legitimate logic of Proven players and T act being used to decide whether Elvis should die or walk for killing innocents. We as players do this constantly, as once a player is suspicious we are less likely to let T acts slide and we are not toxic players for doing so.

This balancing act of reasons to kill and whether you should is the basis of regular gameplay and comes with experience, and tolerance, and can only be deemed toxic if done so in a disruptive, petty, and/or repeated way. We even a phrase for these situations, being 'RDM Chain'. Many players have met this fate, but I don't agree that this is an example of it, and with hindsight, Jabba should realise this too. Nilz's history plays into this when considering the repeated aspect, but since this does not apply, neither should his history.

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