Invalid Report against C.A.Anna and Mr. Rogers

Name of Staff/Player:

C.A.Anna and Mr. Rogers​

Steam ID of Staff/Player:

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Your Steam ID:

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Which Server:

EU​

Which Map:

Don't remember.​

Which Round:

Second last​

Time of Occurence:

Around 11:00 PM GMT+1​

Reason For Report:

I would like you to consider this not really like a report but an exposure of the immature behaviour of your kind admins moderating you.
We were 3 or 4 players when we all felt into a T trap and we got stuck into eachother. Taken by panic I gave a left click as I was holding the crowbar.
This MAY have dealt 15hp of damage to some players while we were all going to die into the T trap burnt alive. Please consider that didn't cause the death of anybody.
As we were all death I was surprised how KILL REGISTERED upon me of whoever I dealt a crowbar hit, so Mr. Rogers started complaining reporting me. Please note I also died by an Innocent as he shot me in the head while we were all trapped, but I was concious that I was STILL GOING TO DIE nomatterwhat so he's not what really was going to cause my death, yet I am not crying like an immature cupcake.
So Anna thought well to land 2 slays on me, saying that I was supposed to receive 3 but she tried to be "nice".
Consider this: you are going to die in a car accident, but before the big impact you are going to slap the person on your right. Is he going to die cause of you or cause of the final accident?
Pretty much common sense I suppose.
Last but not least, Anna issued a 2 weeks ban on me as I logged out from the server after taking the second slay and not waiting round end. She may have thought that was the second RDM & Leave? hell no.
Another common senseless act. The first RDM & leave ban was voided, expired in 2 minutes cause of an accident, thing which you didn't notice so you just had to proceed with your ban punishing me for a second offense. You know what? That didn't bother me at all. I am never going to join your servers anymore, so I just don't care. You can even ban me permanently, my point is just to expose you and your immature behaviour.​

Evidence And/Or Witnesses:

No need, if they are "mature" enough they will just confess whatever happened.​

 

Tagging @C.A.Anna and @Mr. Rogers as well as @Kyogre and @Highwon. Please wait for the responses of the involved.

 

Hey there Dugi,

Thank you for reporting myself and my fellow admin @Mr. Rogers ! We take forum reports seriously as we never want our players feeling as if we have done anything wrong by them. As I dealt with the report itself and much else, I will be bringing forth all the evidence needed. If Rogers would like to add anything thereafter he is more than welcome to however all that will be needed will be presented by me as I not only dealt with punishment against you earlier during your time on the server, but also at the time this occurred and the ban that followed.

Now, for complete transparency I'll bring forth all encounters with you that occurred on the servers so that you can see I followed protocol correctly and was not, in fact, being immature.

We were on EU Vanilla when this occurred. My first instance of RDM with you was on the map Innocent Motel. It was round 4 and at the start of the round you seemingly shot someone for no reason and killed them. They reported you for the instance. You can see this report and the logs that correspond to this in the spoiler below.

Spoiler: Report 1 & Logs

Now are you can see in your response you state "not really" however upon looking deeper into the logs I was confused as to why you killed him. He hadn't shot at all, he didn't throw any kind of traitorous grenade and he didn't walk by any unided bodies as no one was dead just yet. Because of this and your response I issued your first slay onto you. I will note to you that slays do not rest per map change or anything like that so this first offense carried on with you throughout the rest of your time on the server.

So we go onto the next map which was Skycraft Final. It was round 5 when this incident occurred. Now I don't have a screenshot of the original report on hand, it seems I missed it in my flurry to screenshot other things however I have the logs and everything else what is of importance here. All that was included on the report was Mr. Rogers asking why and you sending in some question marks or claiming you were confused. Either way, this is irrelevant and is not needed. I should note however that he never complained, merely issued the report and moved on. He never spoke to you in regards to it as I dealt with it. Either way in the following spoiler I have a screenshot of the logs pertaining to this particular situation.

Spoiler: Logs of 2nd & 3rd RDM

I have highlighted the two cases in red. Now, I believe you all fell into the T trap at the bottom of the big ladder up to the top tower/look out. You were then TPed into the trap at the very top of said lookout where you burn to death. In this instance you were swinging your crowbar. Not only did you land a shot on one other player which ultimately resulted in your death, and was a valid kill on you, you must have pushed Mr. Rogers as well just before because the kill on him was put onto you. This was shown in the shot logs that I don't have a screenshot of. It showed that you had swung your crowbar more than once which would indicate it was highly likely you pushed Mr. Rogers whilst in the trap as well as hitting the other player and damaging them. Now following protocol I am at no obligation to ignore this, the logs state that you killed him and thus this is outside of my control. I was in the right to slay you. Now as this was not only your second offense but also (unfortunately for you) your third offense, I should have issued a one day ban onto you for RDM (3x). However, I decided that because of the circumstances surrounding the situation, I would only issue the 2 slays onto you for your second offense. I could have issued 3 as I was well within my right to, however I only did the two as I was exercising my administrative discretion.

When I issued the two slays onto you, you told me you felt I was wrong in doing so. I explained to you that the logs tied it back to you and that I was being lenient on you as you had already rdmed two other times, that being on the previous map and the other player you hit with a crowbar. I have the logs of the conversation for you in the following spoiler so that there is proof showing I did explain to you. I have de-cluttered them by removing all the excess information that does not pertain to this. I also kept in one player asking to leave as a guideline to prove that I have not removed anything extra in between for the sake of being transparent.

Spoiler: Chat Logs

I don't usually exercise discretion too often for the sake of keeping things consistent and so that people do not complain about favouritism. I like to keep things fair and considering I had used discretion to not only not ban you, but not issue 3 slays onto you, I felt that I was being extremely fair to you and completely mature about the situation. Although you are a new player relatively new player, you have 60 hours which isn't too bad, it does not excuse you from the rules. We are also a serious server and we take things like this as such. I was merely following protocol.

Finally, after your parting words you left the server as shown in the following screenshot.

Spoiler: Leaving whilst slain

Now it even states on our MOTD that you are greeted with each time you join the server, that you MUST stay until the end of your slay round or else it will count as RDM and Leave as seen here

Spoiler: MOTD

So I was well within my right to ban you. It is true however that I missed the first ban being voided however I have already hoped onto the server and rectified that by fixing the ban length. You have now been rightfully banned for RDM and Leave (First Offense) for 5 days by myself. However me missing that fact was not me being immature in the slightest nor was it my intention to do so. I thought I had checked correctly yet I did not and now that it is fixed and you have not served any extra time than what you should have that is all well and good.

I don't feel that I have acted wrongly in any way. You broke the servers rules and I used punishments as required. I even exercised discretion to help you. Instead of being banned for a day, you would have gotten off by serving two slays but because you didn't see eye to eye with me you left and now must serve a 5 day ban. Again this is not me being immature at all but instead is me following the protocol I was trained to follow.

I believe that is everything sorted now. As Mr. Rogers was not all that involved and only filed the initial report I don't believe he will have much to add and I have presented all the evidence required. I will leave the verdict up to my superiors.

Thank you very much for your time,
~C.A.Anna

 

After reviewing all the evidence provided by Anna, I see no examples of the immature behavior you claim were displayed.

I also see no need to report Mr. Rogers in this case as the only part that involved him in all this was when he filed a report against you.

Anna acted very civil the entire time and and even gave some mercy in punishment despite you killing both Rach and Rogers as it was your Second Offense of RDM. As Anna stated, you were punished as the logs had credited the kill on Rogers to you due to the most likely scenario being that you pushed him into the trap. She acted within protocol and had she seen the event happen firsthand or you provide video evidence for the kill, things could have been handled differently.

As far as this report against them goes, Anna's only mistake was the incorrect Offense for the RDM and Leave ban which was soon corrected.

If you have any evidence to show that they were being immature or handled the situation poorly, feel free to message me privately. With all that said, I don't see anything else that Anna or Rogers did wrong so consider this report invalid.