I agree. Was just playing just now and its a dull and bad map.. The elevator on that map was really glitchy and you can actually die from it.
its underplayed because the easiest way way to go from ons side to the other ( when on the shelfs) is an elevator that kills you 60% of the time
i find it easier to just avoid that and go all the way down and back around, and the elevator does kill you that much just gotta be careful
why would you need to rush? only reason i can think of is DNA but other then that there really isnt a reason to rush
If you get stuck in the little cart, you crowbar the black and yellow bar, this causes it to go down and prevents you from dying. this map is great, and one little problem should not get it removed from the server.
The map is fine, it's big and full of obstacle, true enough that the elevator is glitchy and may cause you to be crushed (as stated in death). I don't see a need to remove it at all, it's a fun map to be exact.
Yeah, I enjoy the map because it is a good sniping map with plenty of hiding spots. If you are on the verge of getting caught, it is also very easy to disappear using the map's many paths. I never have a problem with the elevator because I never use it. You cannot get crushed to death by it if you do not use it.
I'll add this to the mapping to-do list, to fix the elevator. It is an actual issue as it's impossible to tell who presses the elevator button/RDM's through it, but it's by no means a big enough issue to remove the entire map. I've been wanting to fix those cubemaps anyways.
I always wanted to ask this but don't you need map makers permission to make big changes and keep the name? Or is that a respect thing
You don't have to do anything, anyone can download the program to decompile a map and edit away. It's the reason there's fifty thousand versions of rp_downtown and evocity. It's completely out of respect, especially when making major changes to the level layout and logic. However when it is only a very minor revision or two to fix a bug/etc and no actual credit is being taken, it's less necessary. More of a favor than anything.