Answered lead admin didn’t answer questions so here’s another thread with questions

Discussion in 'Questions & Answers' started by john redcorn, May 2, 2020.

  1. john redcorn

    john redcorn strangers like me VIP Emerald

    1. Why not warn about “baiting porn links” sooner; do you really need to hold onto to the evidence for over a month to act on it with everything else? This is something that can cause breaches in our TOS and would love an answer here. same question about threatening players minus terms of service

    2. Why hold onto evidence of targeted slurs like credence did and not proceed in the protocol with them even though he warned; hold on them for safe keeping only when they can be used for a big boy ban even though you could of built up a better case for a month ban by proceeding with the protocol here?

    3. how are the first two reports a good thing to include in this ban justification? One even says “no major conclusion can be brought home from this”
     
    john redcorn, May 2, 2020
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  2. Lordyhgm

    Lordyhgm Spiteful smells Lead Admin VIP

    All of your questions were discussed with the player who appealed. They did not ask you to make a report and you were wrong to do so. But I can see the merit in disclosing the conclusions publically to limit any confusion.
    A ban like this is not for a single thing and can be the result of repeated and consistent toxic behaviour, and so evidence from a long time ago is relevant if it proves the case.

    Baiting players into doing things that'll get them banned is most certainly not how the game is intended to be played and deemed toxic.

    This was my message to admins once I'd handled it, to help them understand that a ban like this should be avoidable and that to get one should be a mark of continued inappropriate behaviour. I saw that the evidence of warning was lacking for a few of the points and so a reduction should be considered. I can say with confidence that it's by no means necessary for the section of the ban regarding karmas, gbans have been placed for excessive karma bans without warning in the past, but it's a way avoiding the feeling of having things dumped on them.
    It was more the behaviour on the reports than the content of them that was of note; a player's actions inherently impact the likelihood of a successful appeal and his attitude/behaviour on those reports and the appeal itself was inappropriate (hence he received a warning for spamming irrelevant comments). The weight of the content was negligent for one and harassment was found in the other.
     
    Lordyhgm, May 2, 2020
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