Killamarshall should not be staff

Name of Staff/Player: Killamarshall

Server: West (and east previously? I'm not sure I have played both)

Time of Occurrence: Multiple times (most recent 8:00pm ish (-6GMT central time))

Reason For Report: Rabid abuse of staff slay power while also refusal to slay himself for RDM ever. There have been countless times that this has come up - Always which results in killamarshall slaying whoever is arguing with him, regardless of the occasion. The latest two cases have progressed thus : 1. I was a Detective, and there was another Detective standing near me so I called "Detective is a Traitor" on the other detective. This is and was an obvious joke, and a LOT of the server took it as such. As everyone was having a good time and having fun I was slain for calling a Detective a Traitor, while I was another Detective. I was then muted for trying to argue the case. In which time I was told that saying "Detective is a Traitor" is the equivalent of committing RDM on a Detective. So I was slain for RDM'ing a Detective.

2. Golden was an innocent alone in a room with someone else, a third player enters, and asks "golden, what are you doing alone in the room with this guy" - then laughing, golden answers "oh you know, planting C4s, buying mp7s, and doing other traitor stuff - cause I'm a traitor" in the most sarcastic voice possible. Killamarshall then calls a KOS on Golden, for saying this - Golden is killed, he is found innocent, then they all turn and kill killamarshall, who is also innocent. Killamarshall, having the slay ability and the ability to automatically punish anyone he pleases to do so, slays Golden the next round because "he said he was a traitor in chat, that made me call a kos on him, which ended up killing me because he was innocent. So Golden was slain for RDM"

If this already isn't enough for him to not be staff, there have been countless times that his power abuse has become apparent. Previously, he has slain someone for 3 rounds because he was prop killed in the bowling alley. One slay is the common, and repeated punishment for prop killing as a spectator, and everyone readily accepts this punishment. To slay someone 3 times the regular amount, just because it happened to you, is BY FAR abusive to staff power. Another example of Killamarshall's rampant abuse is a match I recall on Magma, where Killamarshall shot an explosive barrel when someone walked by it. Both were innocent, and in any other case, this would have resulted in Killamarshall being slain, however, since there were no other staff on to handle the situation, Killamarshall merely told the player "you shouldn't have been walking by it, you know someone could have shot it." I remember this occurrence so vividly because it was one of those moments that you sit back and question "really? did a staff member just say that?"

This is not to say that he NEVER slays himself. When there is another staff, he will most always slay himself when he slips up, while also sometimes when he is the only staff member online, he will admit to his crimes and slay himself within the same round of committing a crime. However, I'd say the ratio of him actually doing his job, and abusing his power would be a 2/5 at best. There are far better players, and far more deserving players that should be staff. Killamarshall has a negative output onto the server, and therefore I think should have his moderator abilities revoked for the sake of the server and the sake of the players. If there is any question about anything said or written including in this report, feel free to message me on the server at anytime.

Evidence And/Or Witnesses: Golden I know for sure will back me on it, as it happened to him also. Other players were online but I am not sure who was paying attention and who wasn't.

 

Let me explain each situation for you.

1. If you call a KOS on a proven innocent/detective, you can be killed for it or slain for calling a false KOS, as an innocent.

2. If you call a KOS on an innocent, it can be considered RDM. If you say that you are a traitor and are not a traitor, then it can be considered RDM. Saying you are a traitor, as an innocent, is the exact same thing as calling a false KOS on yourself. Doing so causes other player's Karma to drop by causing chain RDM.

The third event, if killamarshall was following protocol and this player had damaged other players with the prop while killing him or before or afterward, then 3 rounds would have been justified.

With the event of him shooting a barrel. This would not be acceptable of a staff member, but this will become a he said/she said argument, which it has anyway, and nothing will really be done with it considering it's just you saying it without providing any real evidence other than hearsay.

If you could provide some solid evidence, such as screenshots or recordings, it would be appreciated.

 

KOSing a detective is still a false KOS and you can be killed for it. And while I would agree that detectives are immune to the KOS on traitorous acts, if they are RDMing or calling false koses, the detective in question can be killed in order to stop the RDM

This does not sound like killamarshall to me. Also, saying you're a traitor is KOSable. If you KOS yourself and you are innocent, then you can be slain for it.

3 slays can be given if it's 2 RDM (note: RDM is any unreasonable damage to another player. So it doesn't have to be 2 kills) in the same round, and some staff members prefer to slay for 3 rounds instead of a 1 day ban for a 3rd offense. As for your second situation here, if this is true, then Killamarshall will be dealt with accordingly. However, you have not provided any evidence for any of your claims thus far, so I will await Killamarshall's response.

I will wait for Killamarshall to reply to this. However, you have not really provided any evidence for your claims.

 

the first 2 situations as he states them are true and unless rules have randomly changed within the last 24 hours i was completely within my right, third one on the prop kill was because it wasnt the first or second time, it was his third time and as event stated i slay 3 rounds rather than a 24 hour ban. and on magma i HAVE NEVER said that before in my entire time of playing TTT and i didnt slay myself because the person that got hurt by it said no your fine, it was my fault via @ chat to me. if an admin feels i shouild slay myself for that i will be glad to. specifically with the golden incident, him saying "because i am a T(raitor)" is by all reason to KOS him and if he turns out to be inno (which i warned him of) he would be slain.

 

Sounds like Killamarshall was acting in the way a moderator should act.

 

Killamarshall was acting as he should as a moderator. The only thing I would change, Killamarshall, is that instead of slaying Golden for KOSing himself, would be to give him a warning about KOSing yourself. If that was not his first time KOSing himself, however, then you were in right on that as well.

 

i gave him a warning after he said he is a t, i said "if you call yourself a t and are inno you will be slain" he continued to say he was a t and "kos me"

 

I was there when this happened and I can vouch for Killamarshall and say that he did his moderator duties correctly. It is exactly as MangoTango and Event Horizon has said it is. False KOSes cause rdm and you can be slain for it. Declaring you are a T is traitor baiting and if you turn out to be innocent, you can be slain for encouraging rdm.

As for Killamarshall not punishing himself, he has the same stance I do, that Killamarshall and I do not like working on reports involving ourselves so that we do not render any impartial verdict or favor ourselves in the judgement. Whenever I see a report against Killamarshall and I find him in fault in the matter, I issue him a slay. I hold everyone accountable to the rules and I will punish anyone who breaks the rules.

 

1. A kos was never called on an innocent/detective. I said word for word "Detective is a Traitor" And we both were detectives. There is no way that this could be taken as a KOS, unless saying "Everyone is a traitor" is also a false kos, or "Traitors are Traitors". Both of which would be absolutely ridiculous and absurd.

2. How possibly can a joke be taken so seriously as to be called RDM when he in no way caused it. You saw what I put right? It is nearly word for word how it went in game. If this is slay-worthy, then there should be a slay every other 30 seconds on every player for saying anything. This is how the game is played. I am saying that Killamarshall does this REGULARLY and should not be staff, there are plenty of other staff members to fill his place where he should not have even been placed first off.

I would hold my life against this being true. It went golden: "bla bla bla yea I'm a T" and then Killamarshall IMMEDIATELY calling a KOS on him. Don't even have to hold this one against me, you can ask Golden himself whenever he is online.

3. This prop did absolutely nothing other than kill Killamarshall as a bowling ball while spectating, because it was so funny he just left the bowling ball like anyone else would have. It was hilarious, but since Killamarshall was the butt of the joke, he had to abuse his power and slay 3 times, for 1 kill.

4. It can be a heresay argument all it wants, but the point of the matter is I have given 4 cases where Killamarshall has abused his power, and given sources to back it up if needed.


I also don't think that this debate should be over each individual occurrence, but rather viewing the picture as a whole - that Killamarshall has either abused his power, or gotten too close to it - both of which doesn't need to happen. There are countless other staff members, and other players far better suited for the job. I say, he is not fit to be staff - other players also agree with this. There have been members I remember saying that they were changing to east or west2 just for the fact of Killamarshall not being there. Even if it is only a player here, or a slay there - there is no need for Killamarshall to be staff. As he too readily abuses it or uses it to his own means instead of the means of the server.

 

You have not given a single case of Killamarshall abusing his power. I want to state that calling someone a traitor and calling a KOS on someone is EXACTLY THE SAME THING! No one is going to just not listen to "So and So is a Traitor!" and not immediately call a KOS, because being a traitor is the number one traitorous act and a KOS can be called for it; they are not two separate things.

If someone calls themselves a traitor they can be killed for it; plain and simple. We have slayed and banned players in the past for reasons such as this. If you call yourself a traitor it is the same thing as a false KOS and you can be slain for it; especially if it causes a chain RDM.

In only one situation you have given a single source and that source is Golden. If Golden were warned in any way and continued to say they were a traitor and it turns out they are innocent, they can be slain for it.

If a member saying they were going to another server, then that's no big deal. Other staff members will switch servers if there are plenty of staff on one server. The staff members know not to leave a server unstaffed if there is plenty of staff online.

I would still encourage you to provide screenshots or video proof of these events, because a report like this will really get you nowhere.

Here is a simple topic to show you how to gather evidence: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2268

 

lol white is this a joke? because if not YOU DONT KNOW THE RULES talking about kosing golden and you calling the detective a traitor