Killamarshall Administrator Abuse

Discussion in 'TTT Staff/Player Reports' started by Khangirey, Mar 9, 2014.

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  1. Khangirey

    Khangirey VIP

    Name: Killamarshall
    Server: West 2, 67th Way
    Time: Around 10PM PST
    Explanation: I was the last innocent, and there was one traitor left. After a brief firefight, the disguised traitor retreated to the T room, where he remained for a good 30 seconds. The admins called for traitors to start traiting multiple times, and he wouldn't budge. I began climbing up the ladder, and was standing in the connector that leads to the outside. I was looking at the street and ladder periodically. The next thing I know, I see a message saying Killamarshall has teleported (Terrorist). I panic, not sure of what to think of it, when seconds later I die when I get shot from behind. My reason for reporting is not out of spite or anger, but because I feel Killamarshall overstepped his boundaries, when he HELPED a player who was breaking the rules by teleporting him; giving him an unfair advantage because prior, I was aware of his position. As per rule #5 "No camping/delaying when majority of players are dead". Killamarshall says he has the power to levarage rules, but in the MOTD, it says that "Punishments are subject to change under an admin's discretion." Punishments, not rules.
    Evidence:
    I copied and pasted the logs with irrelevant things redacted. There seemed to be a near unanimous support both in text, and voice chat claiming the Killamarshall had overstepped his boundaries.

    STop camping please
    Krys: Please stop delaying.
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL} teleported [AGC]Totally Innocent
    No camping
    You were killed by [AGC]Totally Innocent, he was a TRAITOR.
    TTT: The Traitors have won!
    Round state: 4
    [AGC]Totally Innocent: Gg
    *DEAD* (TEAM) Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: yes he was camping
    [AGC]Totally Innocent: thank you killa
    *DEAD* (TEAM) Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: it wasnt behind you
    [AGC]Totally Innocent: w
    mleynek19: report killa
    Round state: 2
    mleynek19: admin abuse
    (TEAM) Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: you were in the room, i spawned him in the pool
    Rennocc: reported
    [AGC]Totally Innocent: i was ganna teleport
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: yes i can
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: ...
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: he was camping
    $iddharth952 and Rennocc were slain.
    You are: INNOCENT
    TTT: The Traitors have been selected.
    Round state: 3
    TTT: The round has begun!
    Exodia's_Legacy: admin abuse
    [AGC]Totally Innocent: i was ganna use T teleporters ...
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: you werent the one camping in the T room
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: no i didnt
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: Khangirey
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: its my discretion
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: i chose to TP him
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: and it was a fair TP
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: you were in the room
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: i TP'd him to the pool
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: you saw that i TP'd him
    Krys: Muffin is T Baiting me! Help!
    Krys: Muffin is T Baiting me! Help!
    Krys: Muffin is T Baiting me! Help!
    TurntechGodhead: mleynek19 is a Traitor!
    TurntechGodhead: mleynek19 is a Traitor!
    [AGC]Totally Innocent called a Detective to the body of Mr. Lambert!
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: so you should have been more attentive to your surrondings
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: suroundings*
    Report staff abuse at http://www.seriousttt.com
    Killamarshall™ {CoNL}: it wasnt abusive at all

    Again, Killamarshalls argument is this.
    "I saw (I only was aware seconds before I died) him teleported"
    "I should have been more attentive"
    "He could teleport a rule breaker"

    The outcome of this dilemma here doesn't really concern me. I'd just like different admins and players to weigh in their opinions on this matter.
     
  2. DocFox

    DocFox The Best Is Yet To Come VIP Silver Emerald

    Punishments are subject to change under an admins discretion. I don't think that killamarshall teleporting the traitor would have changed the outcome of the round; given the fact that traitor rooms have multiple teleporters and you wouldn't have had any knowledge of where the traitor could have teleported in that case. If anything, the global message would have then shown you that the t was no longer in the t room; it's not like he spawned him right behind you.

    I'm sure that if you wet the traitor in this situation you might have been upset if Killa decided to slay you instead of teleporting you.

    I don't think that him teleporting the traitor would have changed the outcome, regardless. If anything, it could have let you know that the traitor was no longer in the traitor room.
     
  3. Khangirey

    Khangirey VIP

    I appreciate the input, but remember, if I was warned MULTIPLE times that I shouldn't camp, I wouldn't be too pissed if I was slain. As far as all recall correctly, there isn't a teleport location that leads to the pool, that's why I was looking to the right. This is a player vs player game, I don't feel it's fair, or just in the matter to make decisions for someone who can't make it themselves. If the traitor wasn't brave or smart enough to kill me on his own, he should have lost.
     
  4. DocFox

    DocFox The Best Is Yet To Come VIP Silver Emerald

    So, if he would have teleported any other place other than the top of the jail, you're saying you would have won the round? The player could have even used a teleporter to teleport elsewhere and you still couldn't have known where he was. If anything, this could have given you better awareness to the situation.
     
  5. ZeRo

    ZeRo :sneaky: Banned VIP Silver

    Just to correct you Khangirey, there IS a teleport location that leads you to the pool. Killamarshall wasn't abusing his privileges at all. He was letting you know that the traitor wasn't camping anymore. His action should've alerted you to be more cautious since the traitor was (and should be at that point in the game) more active.
     
  6. Killamarshall

    Killamarshall Hmm... interesting.. Smite anyone?? VIP

    i Teleported the T to a Spawn location where he could have used the T room to get to anyways, you complained that i should have slayed him but in this situation i gave him a fighting chance, it was a 1V1 situation so i didn't slay him right away.
     
  7. Zikeji

    Zikeji Repoleved VIP Emerald

    Some staff don't like to slay users for camping. Killamarshall was in the right here.
     
  8. Killamarshall

    Killamarshall Hmm... interesting.. Smite anyone?? VIP

    i am goign to state the reason for a TP rather than a slay, it is all purely situational.

    EX: If there is one T and 5 innos left and the Traitor is Playing around and drawing Crowbar drawings or after warnings gets an inno by themselves and does absolutely nothing about it, i would slay. i only slay for delaying if they don't do any such traitorous act such as throwing a incen grenade or activating a disguiser and getting in a snipping position.

    This was a 1V1 situation and you were at the top of the ladder leading downstairs on 67th way, i TP'd him to the pool where he could get to anyways from the T room he was in, i gave him and you a completely fair chance to win.
     
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