Approved Elforia's Appeal

Your In Game Nickname:

Elforia​

Your Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:50646607​

Which Server:

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Why you should be unbanned:

Noctorus and Osama where T's this was on the whitehouse map and there are only 2 entrences into that room not including the other room. Noctorus or Osama shotguns somebody Noctorus goes to dispose of the body with a flare gun and I kill Osama and Noctorus for GBA and Noctorus still had his flare gun when I killed him and then Noctorus proceeds to ban me for mass rdm. So from what I understand so far is that I should never kill Noctorus on his T round or I will get slayn/banned? please explain this to me I don't understand how that was mass rdm. Thank You for your time and I hope you will reconcider this ban. Sadly I do not have the CPU/memory to record every second of me playing Garry's mod and I was not told that I would get banned either all he said was that "That's not GBA" and proceeds to ban me.​

Evidence of Innocence:

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You were banned by @Noctorious for Mass RDM (3).

 

It's okay, I recorded. And I actually explained in voice chat that there was a room separate from where we were in, but you kept cutting me off so I went ahead and banned you. I will add the screenshots/video as soon as I can

 

Hello! To start, I joined because you asked for a mod on shoutbox. Upon joining I find that you had blatantly revenged RDM'd in this report:


A few rounds pass and during a T round Osama kills someone in one room, I burn the body for him and the door closes. As I'm burning the body he goes into a separate room and stands guard at the door, keeping it shut until I am behind him, out of the room we had killed a player in. Then, the door is opened and you immediately fire upon us. The problem is, that while you claim we either had to have done or seen the traitorous, that is simply not true. Because you could not have known our positions prior to opening the door, you could not have known if we had ever left the room. The traitorous acts happened in a separate room. Just because we heard firing and flare gun in the next room, does not mean that we are gba if we decide not to go towards the sound of gunfire. This is all shown in the next 2 video clips. The first uses the drive mode to confirm that you had not seen into or entered the room prior. The second clip is just simply from my point of view, since drive mode does not accurately represent where I was at the time.

Spoiler: Report

Because this counted as your second and third RDM in the 2 maps, you were banned for mass RDM (3). Which is a 24 hour ban.

If you still feel that I do not understand how GBA works I will call upon my new admin @Shadow to review this appeal.

 

Hello @Elforia, thanks for taking the time to appeal your ban.


Here is our rule on GBA. After reviewing the video evidence, I have determined your claim of GBA to be invalid.

This is suspicion. There are two different rooms here, one with a podium, and the room where you killed them. You say you heard a burning body, and that's the reason you killed the two traitors. But, you didn't see the burning body before shooting, you only heard it. The burning body was not in the same room as the two traitors you killed, therefore you did not see it before killing. You cannot kill two people claiming GBA for something you never saw. You also cannot claim GBA for sounds which is what you did here. People do not have to respond to the sounds of burning bodies or any traitorous acts they hear elsewhere.

In this situation, the only information you had was this: the sound of a burning body. The sound of a traitorous act IS NOT grounds for GBA in this case, as there were two different rooms that the body burning could have happened in, more if you simply heard it wrong.

With this ruling, I will leave control of this appeal to @Noctorious.

 

so quick question if I hear a shotgun shot then I go over to investigate and I hear no other shots/harpoon/silenced weapons and then see a person blocking the door and then hear a flare gun that can't be counted as GBA? even if the other room is really small?

 

If there is a room around the corner, or with a door, or any other way where the player blocking the door could have not seen the flare-gun be shot, then you cannot have 100% certainty that the player at the door witnessed a T-act and therefore cannot use GBA. If we had been in the room with all the chairs, the one with one door and no other rooms connected to it and you had been outside of that door when the flare gun was shot, you could have used GBA since the player at the door could have full view of everything that happened in that room and there were no walls or other rooms that would block his line-of-sight.

Since you have served most of your ban already and have a better concept of the rules, I'll go ahead and lift your ban. Feel free to pm myself, Shadow, or any other staff member if you have further questions.

Appeal: Approved

 

Ok that makes sense so either you have to see them not doing anything or they have to be in a room with no way out or in except for the door that your at for it to be GBA otherwise its just KOSus which = RDM