Supposed hacking and "whipping from player to player"

Your In Game Nickname: 3,4,5-Trimethoxyphenethylamine
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:27228736

Why should you be unbanned: Well I only know why I was banned because I had a friend playing on the server as well. And I guess it was hacking. I should be flattered but I'm really not that good. My typical setup as a traitor (was a T that round) is the HK416, I believe it is from the meta-shop thing and the silent SMG from the T shop. They're both pretty accurate for close-medium range with a nice rate of fire. Probably too good, but that's another issue. Anyway to more accurately touch on this hacking thing, I switch between the guns rapidly as I anticipate it instead of waiting for a reload. Also as a T and with that level of rapid deadly force, you have to be committed to mowing down rooms of 3 or 4 enemies. Luck is a factor here, and I've had my fair share of catastrophic failures.

Evidence of innocence: Well I'm not entirely sure how one would go about doing that exactly. I do hope this is resolved, however. Also it may be helpful to mention that this took place on the white house map, which is all close quarters combat.

 

Sir Lemoncakes banned you for Hacking he will respond soon.

 

You killed all of your enemies with head shots, didn't look at them while killing them, and tracked people before they rounded corners. I am convinced you were hacking.

 

Thank you for responding.

I did not hack. As someone who definitely wasn't hacking,I'm really disappointed in your poor judgement. I thought this was a decent server in a sea of bad apples (not that I necessarily mean to disparage the server, just this encounter) I've really nothing bad to say about any admins I've come across up to this point. Some pretty reasonable experiences. This, however, is quite ridiculous. I'm most certainly skeptical of the claim that I killed exactly all of my enemies with headshots, super confused how anyone can manage to kill someone without looking at them, and incredibly interested in seeing evidence of what you allege is me tracking people through walls. But if you had evidence we would be talking about that and you wouldn't just be making far reaching claims. I implore you to reconsider and not so hastily reach for the ban button because IDing a hacker and banning them gives off some sort of Admin rush. That's fine in any case as it promotes getting rid of evildoers except where the facts of reality are twisted and distorted to fit the intending paradigm, being the situation I find myself in. Now I don't claim to know you or your mode of conduct as an admin but I'm quite positive I was not hacking, and should be unbanned, lest some concrete evidence exist that proves I was hacking, of which I can say there is none.

 

You definitely know how to make an argument for yourself. However, I'm not sure if this is your in game user name or not, but given that you only have 4 hours played on the server your credibility is not very trustworthy. It's not likely that someone with high time played on a server would start hacking; typically they join a random server and hack. If this is not your in game user name then indicate what it is so I can check to see how credible you are. From the information that I have read and collected (cited below) I have reason to suspect that 'Sir Lemoncakes' ban was correct, and you were in fact caught hacking.

Name: 3,4,5-Trimethoxyphenethylamine
Score: 412
Time Played: 3.95
Score/Min: 1.74

 

I've played more as http://www.gametracker.com/player/N%2CN ... .73:27015/ but Trimethoxy was my name come ban time
The name themes are similar

Score: 2268
Minutes Played: 1483
Score per Minute: 1.5

 

If I may interject some points about this case:

As I was there when the ban happened (and spectated him for several rounds) I can state several things. The spectator system in Garrys Mod, or in any source game is a horrible way to detect hacking as it creates jerky movement due to various factors such as internet speed and the implementation itself. I state from personal experience that the spectator system (In first person mode) tends to create a slight 'teleporting' effect, which is caused due to our eyesight and motion blur. Spectator mode in the first-person mode is not exactly 1:1 with our eyesight, as players with lots of experience in the fps genre tend to develop ''abnormal'' twitch responses which creates the 'whipping'. Specator-mode in the third-person is also not 1:1 with the player model and the respective player's screen, so one can seem like he is aiming for your chest; when in fact it's your head.

Garrys Mod itself is a network-unoptimized game which produces tons of physics-related, and general lag. I have experience this myself; sometimes shooting people can proc the damage at a few milliseconds after the ''fire'' button is pressed when explosions are currently in the works. This is where the player has a chance to adjust his sights to something else other than the target's (in the case) head.

The fact that Sir Lemoncakes banned him merely seconds after his supposed hacking is highly questionable in its execution. Sir Lemoncakes (in my opinion) should have gathered more evidence about "Phenethylamine" (Aka 3,4,5-Trimethoxyphenethylamine) to prove his claim rather than outright banning him after the first incident of questionable activity. I've seen many, many players, including myself, have lucky streaks with headshots because of habitual reflexes from playing the genre for so long, and not from hacking.

"Tracking people before they rounded corners" is an absurd claim as this game-mode has the "Radar" item for the Traitors, which is essentially a ''poor man's wallhack''. Also, a player with situational awareness can easily pinpoint where his enemies are using his senses because in this game the footsteps are outrageously loud. Knowing exactly where your enemy is, is extremely easy in this game.

Having a high-score does not make you a hacker. As The Law stated his stats: "Score/Min 1.74" is actually an acceptable average, as someone who is hacker would have an obscene Score/Min ratio.
Plus, the fact that it took an admin 4 hours to notice he was ''hacking'' is a baseless claim, as hackers do not play longer than an hour at most if there is an active administration on the server.

As I had spectated him throughout my playtime, I can say that he was indeed not hacking. If an admin let him continue onto the next round, they would quickly come to the conclusion that he was just an above-average player. All of this is coming from a long-time player in the fps genre, and an admin from various games in the past who has experience with hackers.

Thank you.

 

It seems to me that he might have just been good. I see Ng angel pull off some rediculous shots on me and other players, but we don't call that hacking. I think he should be unbanned and if it happens again, then ban him.

 

If you refer to my post on Zeo's ban appeal, this is the other ban that I was in the server for and completely disagreed with. An aimbot is very obvious and this guy did not have an aimbot. I also don't agree with this ban because of the ~30 seconds that were put into investigating it. Trimethyl should be unbanned because he is just a good player and did nothing wrong.

(These last 2 posts are not meant to be personal attacks on lemon. Just my unbiased professional opinion.)

- Kasta

 

After a bit more consideration on this player I will lift the ban. I only spec'd you that round and should have put a tad bit more effort into gathering evidence on the alleged behaviors. Though I must admit, you must be quite talented to pull off that many headshots on so many players, kudos to you.