Robokop rdm, and AICO false slay

Name of Staff/Player: Robokop and AICO owns

SteamID of Staff/Player: idk, i cant find them

Server: east 2

Time of Occurrence: 11:25pm pacific

Reason For Report: there was a glitch that caused a detective to die. The detective got stuck in the air, and i tried crowbarring him down. Then after being stuck for a while, the body unglitched and died from falling damage. I was the only player in the room at the time, so i was kosd and killed as soon as i came out of the room.

1: this is a false slay, because obviously i did not kill the detective, he died due to a glitch. I know this is not the moderators fault, because it did say i killed him in the logs. But the mod wouldnt hear my explanation or wait to see my video before he slayed me.

2: I was rdm'd by robo because i ID'd the body, and didn't kill him. He died as if he suicided and then robo killed me for coming out of the room.

Evidence And/Or Witnesses:

 

@AlCo owns will reply at his earliest convenience. Thank you for your patience. In my opinion, robo does deserve the slay here. He had no proof that you killed the guy, but I'll let Alco explain his logic.

 

Hello Silent Rebel! I would like to start off saying that I was actually trying to take the slay off of you when the round started so I apologize for that. I did not see what had happened to the detective so I had to go off of the logs.



You had told me that you had pushed him early in the round and he had glitched in the air and just died all of a sudden. I can see now what had happened and I do apologize as I was trying to remove the slay but time had ran out.

 

Yeah no problem. just void one of my slays, add a slay to robo, and we can close this thread

 

I have slayed myself in game. I will not be slaying the other person as he did not RDM. The other player was in the room 10 seconds before the detective had died. You had opened the door and walked out and he had seen the detective was dead. Doing what any other player would do when seeing that situation, he had killed you.

Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank you for providing evidence and I hope you have a nice day.

Topic Locked.

 

Topic unlocked at request of OP.

 

Sorry but I still think Robo should be slain. I was alone in the room with a detective (the room with the t room entrance). A player could have easily opened up the t room, mowed down the detective, and then ran back in the room. There are tons of ways the detective could have died in the room with me. BUT since robo never saw me kill the detective OR be with it's unid body, he suspected that i killed him (which i didnt.. he took fall damage from a glitch). He made a guess, and was wrong (even though the logs say he was right) therefore he should be slain.

"The other player was in the room 10 seconds before the detective had died. You had opened the door and walked out and he had seen the detective was dead." This is the exact definition of suspicion, he suspected that i killed the detective since i was alone with him. But he never saw me doing anything traitorous. I don't even think i did a single traitorous thing that round, and i wasnt killed by association. So how is NOT rdm?

EDIT: Also, WHY are you being slain? I don't understand. You didn't rdm. you don't slay yourself when you wrongfully slay people.

 

@Silent Rebel We actually do tend to slay ourselves typically when we do a false slay on another player. This is because we no longer void slays on people's records (saves room for more important offenses in the note section). I do, however, agree with you on the case that I believe Robo should be slain. You could've helped your case by telling the players to check the body before shooting you, but they had no proof that you had actually killed the player. Plus, they would've actually heard gunshots if you had shot him, so I believe they reacted on suspicion. They didn't WITNESS you do anything traitorous.

 

Oh that makes sense, about the slay. I tried explaining to the other players but as you can see, they killed me before giving me a chance to speak.

 

Please explain how you could have been in the room with a detective and not seen what happens to him? if you did not call it out it could easily count as association. If there are 2 people in a room and only one walks out alive then i'm going to kill them. Alco slayed himself but the other player should not be slain as I don't believe he RDMed.

 

He could have used the suicide command like I do about 1/6 of my inno/detective rounds. He killed me for killing the detective, which I didn't. He could have killed me for association, but there was nobody to associate me with, because nobody did anything traitorous around me. I didn't do ANYTHING traitorous that round, and nobody did anything traitorous around me. It could be association, but there was no traitorous acts that anyone could have associated me with. So either he suspected I killed a detective (which I didn't), or he suspected I saw who killed him and that I didn't do anything about it (also false). So how is this NOT rdm? Any way you look at this, I was killed because people suspected I did something that I didn't, therefore it's killing on suspicion and rdm.

 

I would have to agree with silent on this. Unless the person was right outside the door, heard shots from inside the room and walked in to see silent IDing the detective, it sounds like RDM.

 

I would have to agree with Silent and Mango here. This seems like a kill on suspicion to me.

 

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This is definitely a time where I'm glad we have a recording. After reviewing the footage I would say Robo definitely shot on suspicion as he did not directly see what happened to the detective.

Honestly GBA is what I might've shot you for in that situation. For all I know a T could have sneaked into the T room, killed the D but not you, you ID the D and ran away. However I would've held back my trigger finger until I could ID the cause of death from the Detective's body. If I saw that he died mysteriously then no problem, any other cause and I would call KOS GBA.

 

Alright thanks.

You guys need to go back to "mod school" or something. This was cut and dry killing on suspicion. The player suspected that i did something, but i never did. He suspected that i was guilty by association, but there was nothing to associate me to.


NOW can we finally get the slay on robokop and close this thread?

 

Silent, please try to be courteous to urisk and Al.
Yes, it was a mistake and it was kill on suspicion but that is not reason to tell them to go back to mod school.
Al even admitted to his mistake on the slay on you and just couldn't type !rslaynr fast enough.
Sorry for the inconvenience and Robo will be dealt with accordingly.

Resolved and locked.