-1 edit: -1! edit2: this has already been suggested in the past.. use the search bar next time locked
The winchester is completely unusable, pistols do it's job better and faster, with even more damage. @Developer pls fix.
m16 lower the recoil + make it more accurate when aimed it the gun is really bad long range and you can barely hit anyone
Nerf the AK's reload time by a small amount (0.5sec-1sec) this way it's still a good weapon for 1v1s and even 1v2s but you can't just kill 3 people, reload, kill 2 people and repeat This would make it so you still have an incentive to buy VIP but it makes it so you can't kill the entire server in 30 seconds
The Winchester 1873 I believe may be able to be fixed with some tweaking of some stats specifically the Cone and Headshot multiplier. I will also mention some discrepancies with some noticeable bugs the Winchester has. Firstly, the reasons for the mention of the cone is because anyone who uses the Winchester knows how inconsistent the spread of the gun even when aiming directly at targets. This happens with all the guns but the Winchester seems to stick out as being particularly wonky in my opinion and may be able to be fixed by reducing the cone size. There are certain gameplay elements that factor in the guns failure to do it's job like shitboxes near the shoulder or back absorbing the hit and not resulting in a headshot. There is also a bug where shooting the Winchester to close to someone would result in a shitbox doing no damage but this is unfixable in the guns stats. Reducing the cone would make the Winchester finally have a good usage in being a skill based weapon and actually function as a decent longer and intermediate range weapon. Secondly, I have not tested this extensively but there is a rather annoying bug or perhaps gameplay quirk that I've only really noticed the past 2 years and this is that the Winchester will not always 1 shot kill when performing a headshot. This happens fairly regularly in gameplay enough where the gun might be considered "unusable" due to its unreliability. This can be accomplished simply by shooting someone with a headshot at either very close or intermediate range and they will be left with around 10 hp. This also happens more consistently with detectives living a Winchester shot to the face. My main theory for this happening in the inherent nature of game reducing your damage when you have lower karma and Detectives having body armor so the headshot multiplier isn't enough to properly do enough damage to the person to 1 shot them which is the intended purpose of the gun. My proposed fix if this is the case, is to increase the headshot multiplier of the Winchester since it would not affect it's base damage and retain it's skill usage by trying to land headshots. Now, I am completely unsure if the Winchester is so wonky due to gameplay design or bugs but tweaking with it's stats may lead to the gun being more consistent and usable in the long run and it wouldn't hurt to try.
im not going to read all that, so im just going to agree, because there’s bound to be something good in it
The detective part sounds like the HS multiplier takes it to ~110 damage, and the DT’s armor reduces it to 90.
it use to be like that on modded but when they gave it +10 clip size it reverted to the vanilla version which is just a joke
decrease mag size in sl8? decrease rate of fire on sl8? this would make it more skill based without completely destroying the need to buy vip to use it. this too. also fix aug and winchester
nerf sl8 / hk416 / scar / acr / ak47, those are the top tier guns bringing them down will make a lot of other guns more viable. I was having fun with a PSG over an SL8 lately because of the fire rate, but the PSG can't 1 shot armored opponents so it loses there.
I'll be putting these to Highwon next week hopefully in a leadership meeting. I will say that any changes to base TTT weapons are very unlikely, just due to a reluctance to update each time and just changing the base code in general. All the others however are good to go. Spoiler: As it stands, in order of urgency HK SL8 Reduce Ammo, decrease Scoped Accuracy, decrease damage, reduce RoF, increase Reload time (SL8 is considered the most unfun and unfair gun by all respondents and players, even those who main it chose not to seeing how unfun it is to play against - any combination of the above will help resolve this issue) AK (Same issues as SL8, but on vanilla, far fewer tweaks required to be intuitive and fun - recoil and reload time should be sufficient) Jackhammer decrease RoF and/or Damage (Still needs to be OP to be worth the credit, but minor change to not be guaranteed kills without any skill) AUG increases Scoped accuracy and reduced recoil Increase Winchester 1873 accuracy and headshot multiplier (Using this gun is non-intuitive and unreliable, and so some tweaks are needed one way or another) FAMAS increased accuracy and/or damage Decrease PSG body damage AWP increased Damage and decreased RoF (mixed basettt/extra) Increase Sniper accuracy (personally indifferent & seem balanced, however mulitple players recommend) (base ttt) Increase Glock damage (base ttt) Increase HUGE Accuracy (base ttt) Decrease Deagle accuracy
