Completed Report against Scooter from BorderLands

Discussion in 'TTT Staff/Player Reports' started by peniled, Sep 16, 2020.

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  1. peniled

    peniled Member

    Name of Staff/Player:
    Scooter from BorderLands
    Steam ID of Staff/Player:
    STEAM_0:0:59942526
    Your Steam ID:
    STEAM_0:0:77286826
    Which Server:
    East 1
    Which Map:
    Mummy map
    Which Round:
    3 rounds before map change
    Time of Occurence:
    9:26 PM
    Reason For Report:
    My phone goes off for literally 1.2 seconds, I was making a phone call and I dont have push to talk on. He INSTANTLY officially warns me. So i say "why did you instantly warn me and not even ask that's some pussy shit" (which isn't nice of course but Then he gags me for a round for " raging " when all I did was ask why he would do that and comment about it using my mic WITHOUT yelling or actually "raging". I wasnt like " OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU BLAH BLAH BLAH " all the rest of what I was typed.

    Idk if this guy is new or something but that type of agressive unneccesary moderating is not welcoming. There was a player spamming the travis scott sound 3-4 times and he was never gagged. But my phone goes off and he warns me then when I call him out he gags me like 2 times.

    i dont think he even has evidence of my " raging "​
    Evidence And/Or Witnesses:

     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2020
  2. peniled

    peniled Member

    TO CLARIFY


    Basically my phone accidently going off when I didn't mean to isn't me MIC SPAMMING. And me telling him that he shouldn't have done that isn't mic spamming either. I was asking him because he wouldn't respond in text chat as to why he warned and gagged me. Most importantly is the GAG not the warning. I was never mic spamming afterwards when I called him out. Now he's going to randomly ban me for the first occassion when I talk a little bit to loud of try to have fun with people. I need this guy to stop harrassing me and let me play the damn game
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2020
  3. Jabba the Slut

    Jabba the Slut That's Kinky! Lead Admin VIP Silver

  4. peniled

    peniled Member

    After reading the chat. He claims he gagged me for :
    Scooter From Borderlands to You: first i warned you for playing sounds into mic next i raged you for screaming into mic

    Now you would think that he gagged me for going " AHHHHHHHH " into the mic right? Or yelling and talking shit REALLY LOUDLY, something mingy or obviously mic spamming. But i never did that, and I don't know what I said that could've possibly resembled that. Maybe my mic setting is up to high or something? Regardless that is clearly false, I would like him to prove I did that or remove any signs of me being gagged ( if you want to keep the warm for my phone going off for literally i'm not exaggerating 1.2 seconds that's fine)

    there needs to be accountabillity for stuff like this, not just looking for a small unreasonable excuse to ban me or something, of course I am upset with the approach he took treating me like a troll or something.
     
  5. Scooter

    Scooter Scooter#5335 VIP

    ok I have seen this will provide evidence as soon as possible sorry was not able to talk to you further in-game as my internet had crashed
     
  6. peniled

    peniled Member

    I dont have doubt that you recorded it. I have doubt that it constitutes "MIC SPAM" or that it was even my intent for the subsequent gag
     
  7. peniled

    peniled Member

    Regardless of the outcome of this. Take a second guess before you instantly warn someone, or atleast ask me. Because that really pissed me off, but I don't hold grudges. I just want to be able to play the game and talk without fear of getting randomly gagged or banned


    And to whoever reviews the footage. I know what I said. The only questions is wether is constitutes "MIC SPAM" and what if it matters, my intent.

    I would like opinions from diffrent admins, don't just view me as a troll or be biased and want to look for a minor exuse to say it is
     
  8. Scooter

    Scooter Scooter#5335 VIP

    ok well, this sucks I have no video evidence because of crash corrupted my video file all I can do is apologize, I am sorry for the inconvenience I brought to you tonight as you have every right to be mad again I am sorry that I made you feel like you were being harassed. as for the first time I warned you for playing the ringing sound in your mic which is considered mic spam. As of why I r-gagged you the second one was for screaming into the mic

    again I am sorry for tonight's behavior everything that could go wrong did not go wrong I hope you have a better experience on SGM server next time.


    here is are protocol for spamming
    Spamming
    • 1st offense - Gag/mute and a warning
    • 2nd offense - Gag/mute for a-round
    • 3rd offense - 8-hour ban
     
  9. peniled

    peniled Member

    I would like a second opinion as to wether my mic accidentally playing a ringing noise for *actual lenght of time* 1.2 seconds constitutes as mic spam. Just relax before we go straight to warning,muting next time, you're still human you don't need to have a robot response.

    What I know for sure is I never,and I clarify, I never, screamed into the mic. Idk if you heard someone else or something but randomly screaming into the mic is not something I did. Do you rememember what I said or was it just a complete scream?
     
  10. Scooter

    Scooter Scooter#5335 VIP

    what I remember was when heard the screaming and looked your name faded away
     
  11. peniled

    peniled Member

    Ahhh there we go. See that wasn't me. But yeah that was my phone going off for a second not an audiofile. If you hear that again from me it's most likely me making a call. I lowered my mic threshold. The scream definetly wasn't me. I was thinking you muted me for raging or talking to loud.
     
  12. Hummgy

    Hummgy VIP

    I actually have video of this, I will post in a minute
     
  13. peniled

    peniled Member

  14. Voca

    Voca o.o Administrator VIP

    I have seen this, and will reply when I get home from work + would be great to have @Hummgy recording as well to answer some of your concerns, so I will wait with the complete verdict till the evidence is uploaded.
     
  15. peniled

    peniled Member

    if he says he wasn't sure, don't scold him. What you should do instead is take a look at my 5 day ban appeal for planting a c4 in a game called c4 roullete. They denied that because i had a "history" of stuff like even tho my most recent bans were rdms from 4-5 years ago. 5 days seems excessive for a game where all participants were part of it. Idk how to message an admin about that because I got that from a MOD and not an higher up admin.
     
  16. Hummgy

    Hummgy VIP

    Ah, just realized I only have a recording of the first bit (the phone noise). Not very useful, but if @Voca or @Scooter wants it, let me know. (it's only like 2 seconds but it was very obnoxious; seems like @peniled did it on purpose)
     
  17. peniled

    peniled Member

    Bro I can't have my mic trigger by accident for 2 seconds before getting accused of mic spam.
     
  18. Voca

    Voca o.o Administrator VIP

    Allright while Im still waiting for @Hummgy to send me the recording he got.
    Im just going to sum this report up.

    So due to the lack of evidence from Scooter due to a crash in both game and recording software - Its a pretty unlucky scenario - but the report will be held Valid.
    - I do not believe he is to be held responsible for the missing evidence in this case, but based on the conversation between the 2 of you, it seems like he was unsure of who screamed into their mic and Assumed it was you.
    - I will have a short talk to him about how to better ensure that he isnt warning the wrong person for micspam.
    -- This part of the report against @Scooter will be Valid

    Now onto wether or not the warnings was correctly placed.
    - Without a recording from either sides, I cant judge wether what occured was enough for micspam, until I see the video from Hummgy
    - About micspam in itself - the lenght doesnt always matter for it to be micspam - we discourage our staff to warn for short instances of micspam - as long as the player doesnt repeat it, or as long as the short instance isnt distorting or very loud. The staff have their own discretion to judge based on this, and some may find something as micspam while others wont, every person is different after all in which noises they tollerate.
    -- So for now this part of the report will turn out to be
    Invalid
    ---I will update this part of the report, when I have received the evidence from Hummgy


    The overall report is:
    Valid
    All reports are taken as a learning experience for the involved parties, thanks for reporting ouo)/
     
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