Admin Complaint

Discussion in 'TTT Staff/Player Reports' started by cm112, Mar 20, 2014.

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  1. cm112

    cm112 New Member

    Name of Staff/Player:MangoTango

    SteamID of Staff/Player:

    Server: (Which server did this occur on? West, East)
    East 1
    Time of Occurrence: (Make sure you include your timezone and map with round number if necessary)
    around 10:30 CST
    Reason For Report: (What did he/she do?)
    So, after reading through the motd, I decide to greet all the players on the server by saying "Whats gucci my niggas?" (Its a line from a song) I saw nothing in the motd saying racial slurs are not allowed, and the way i used the slur was not in a negative way, FOR EXAMPLE "You're a nigger!" Out of no where I get SLAIN AND MUTED. I admin chat, furious that this happened with no warning or anything. One player made a report about how i said the n word obviously to spite me for saying it, and i said in my reply to stop being a baby. Admin says i was harassing him. (Even though IMO he was trying to harass me with that report.) I just think there was a better way of handling this, a simple "Hey cm112, please dont say any racial slurs on this server, we do not tolerate them" everything would be fine.
    Evidence And/Or Witnesses: (Screenshots/Video Recordings/Players That Witnessed The Event; See Here)
     
  2. mleynek19

    mleynek19 VIP

    racial slurs are considered harrassment on these servers

    next time, just don't say or type anything that would be taken as offensive to race or religion
     
  3. DocFox

    DocFox The Best Is Yet To Come VIP Silver Emerald

    Basically what mleynek19 has stated. I also want to state that I apologized for the slay, as you were reported in the RDM manager. Your response was calling the other player a "little baby." Which is what I actually muted you for. Harassment, even in reports, is still harassment, as it is directed at a person. Then, when I noticed why you were reported, I went ahead and followed the rest of the protocol for harassment and muted you one round.

    All you had to do in your response to the report, instead of harassing the player that reported you, was say, sorry, I didn't know that was harassment, and it would have been fine.
     
  4. cm112

    cm112 New Member

    still gonna fight this, the person didnt report me for harassment, he reported me for saying the n word, on a server where, by reading the motd, I was led to beleive was fine, and that it wasnt even said in a offensive way, thus I was led to believe that he was trying to get me in trouble for something i couldnt even get in trouble for, so i called him a BABY.
     
  5. DocFox

    DocFox The Best Is Yet To Come VIP Silver Emerald

    Racial slurs are considered harassment; especially since you actually directed them at the entire server. The Server Rules clearly state that harassment is not allowed. You might want to look up the definition of harassment and consider your judgement.
     
  6. cm112

    cm112 New Member

    "It is commonly understood as behaviour INTENDED to disturb or upset"

    Nigga - anothor meaning to say; homie, brotha..etc.
     
  7. DocFox

    DocFox The Best Is Yet To Come VIP Silver Emerald

    Or, a racial slur that is derogatory for black person. You have to consider the way other players may perceive it.
     
  8. cm112

    cm112 New Member

    behaviour INTENDED to disturb or upset
    behaviour INTENDED
    INTENDED
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation
     
  9. Enigmatica

    Enigmatica The Song Lives On Banned

    Here on this server, we go by this definition of harassment:

    harass [huh-ras, har-uhs] verb
    1. to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute.
    2. to trouble by repeated attacks, incursions, etc., as in war or hostilities; harry; raid.

    Here MangoTango is punishing you for harassment, which is the act of harassing.

    Racial slurs, even if you may have INTENDED for them to be directed towards the server in a friendly way, are still racial slurs and people take offense to them. Why not just use the other words you described instead?
     
  10. cm112

    cm112 New Member

    None of this even matters the whole point of this is that i didnt even get warned for this just immediatley slain and gagged.
     
  11. DocFox

    DocFox The Best Is Yet To Come VIP Silver Emerald

    Like I said, it was my mistake for the slay, because you were reported in an RDM report; I made a note on your adminstats to void a slay. The first offense receives a mute, warn, unmute, and the second offense receives a mute for one round. Because you decided to call him a little baby, and continued the harassment, I muted you for a round. I even explained it to you via PM and you continued to spam adminchat with all CAPS after I asked you to stop. I could have decided to then ban you for 24 hours, but I wanted you to understand why you were muted.
     
  12. SpeakEZ

    SpeakEZ VIP

    punishments can be changed under an admins discretion, mango is an admin
     
  13. DocFox

    DocFox The Best Is Yet To Come VIP Silver Emerald

    I even followed the MOTD protocol lol.
     
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