You played on motel and assault instead of maps like dolls, rats kitchen, ns_Streets, etc that have far far longer ranges.
U still dont seem to understand that not every weapon is meant for all the ranges. If hkls18 was superior in every situation everyone would just start using only hkls18 again
It is not a long range gun. It is not a short range gun. It is a medium range gun; it thus should be good at MEDIUM RANGES not excel at every range as it was doing previously. And as a side note - basically no one plays on Streets, Rats Kitchen was removed, and Dolls is pretty medium range, and certainly not beyond SL8's range; even corner to corner sniping.
The "snipe" was used for close range, that's not even what its supposed to be. Hear yourself saying this: A "Snipe" is bad for short range (Ofcourse, cuz its a snipe?) So the nerf was good, the weapon itself was way to OP for short range.
Where are you getting this all ranges from? If it has this low of fire reate and low mag and high recoil it is not good for close range, only for medium and long which is why I'm saying to lower the cone.
The gun's actually in a really good state of being right now. As displayed by @MiGGo , the gun has a solid effective range and accurate shots rack up kills quickly. We have powerhouse snipers for longer ranges and a slew of other weapons for close range combat. No gun should cover all bases, and that was taken in to consideration when we made these changes. Now it feels more like skill when you lay out three people in a room before they can react instead of "Eh. I have 20 rounds and pinpoint accuracy at unreasonable distance, I can just jump around and shoot wildly while I kill everyone without a challenge."
Why the fuck is everyone saying "it shouldnt cover all bases" when I've specifically said it isn't good for close range right now, so its literally not good for all bases. And why are you still using the stats of how it was pre nerf when I am talking about adjusting it after the fact. Additionally your butt buddy already agreed that there could be changes coming. https://www.seriousgmod.com/threads/sl8-m14-rebalance.46324/#post-468804 some "content team" filled with no skill players trying to act like they understand overall weapon balance.
It's as good for close range as the person using it is. It's a sniper. It shouldn't be good for close range in the first place, but it is reasonably good. It's like a Colt with more ammo in it.
No its not like a colt lol. If you have multiple people shooting at you that aren't incompetent you don't have a good enough rate of fire to constantly switch between targets. Which makes sense since its a sniper rifle it shouldn't have a good rate of fire. Additionally why I'm saying use the M14 as the close range headshot weapon.
Notice that even for a skilled player like yourself you were CONSTANTLY taking damage, and most of the time when there were 2-3 people looking at you you ended up dying, this means that its on the edge of being balanced, at YOUR skill level, you are better at the game than me, and I am better at the game than the average player. So just because it feels balanced to you, does not mean that the other 90% of the playerbase is going to be able to get any kills.
I think that's a good thing since it's cancer when there's a weapon a ''good player'' can abuse to make the game just not fun to play for the majority of the server. Most of the ''good players'' on EU2 had a mutual agreement about the old SL8 not to use it, since it made the game a lot less fun to play since there was no counter against that gun.
TTT isnt a gamemode where traitor is supposed to win 1v5 fights allthetime with normal weapons. I only died/took dmg cuz i was missing shots and taking unnecessary risks because of my playstyle. Imo hksl18 is still very op if the player is good. If u play good with hksl18 and dont miss shots u will win any fight u take with one bullet. Weapons have to be balanced based on what the highest skill lvl players can do. If someone can easily one tap everyone on the server with autosniper then its overpowered and should have more kick / slower fire rate. Right now its in fairly good spot.
For those folks who are better at long range, what is the best sniper to buy for long range combat? Still the SL8 or better to go with something like the M24 for the smaller cone and higher damage?
Imo, after trying out every sniper, I have completely stopped playing w/ AWP and Barret, I just don't like how the guns feel. I kinda like the M24 but i feel like it's a bit slow. (M24 is good if you want to do dmg w/ bodyshots since it has insane bodyshot dmg) I just stick with the Scout, pretty fast bolt action, "decent" body dmg, but so good at HS.
yea they kinda ruined awp and barrett, it doesnt feel good using them anymore although they deal more damage
If it's long range, just stick to another powerhouse sniper. The cone of the hk sl8 was never meant for long range sniper as far as I have been using it from pre-buff hk sl8 ---> buffed hk sl8 (the one that gained popularity) ---> nerfed hk sl8. As far as this thread goes, adapt to the new hk sl8 and go with it. It may not be as rapid as before, but it's for the better to learn the new hk sl8 rather than complaining about it (like how I used to). I wouldn't mind if this gun became low tier once again, that just makes it more fun to use the hk sl8 than ever. Janppa and Miggo don't give two shits whether the gun is nerfed or not, they still shine because of their skills and ability to adjust. This nerf definitely encourages more careful planning now. Run-and-gun is no longer a viable strat with the hk sl8, but still possible.
