Invalid Report against Festive Tybe

Discussion in 'TTT Staff/Player Reports' started by Bj007pro, Dec 26, 2017.

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  1. Bj007pro

    Bj007pro Active Member

    Name of Staff/Player:
    Festive Tybe
    Steam ID of Staff/Player:
    STEAM_0:1:68523473​
    Your Steam ID:
    STEAM_0:1:69448694
    Which Server:
    West 2
    Which Map:
    Forest
    Which Round:
    IDK
    Time of Occurence:
    02:13am server time
    Reason For Report:
    False Slay​
    Evidence And/Or Witnesses:
     
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2017
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  3. Tybe

    Tybe VIP

    Alright, Thanks for bringing the evidence, that makes it easier for me.

    So you were reported by the person later on in the video. 0:45 for reference. along the lines of rdm, you responded that he was throwing explosives around.
    we can also see that I was watching as well after the incident.

    I slayed you because he was not throwing barrels around, nor was he actively putting people in danger with them. I'd know because I was watching him more than you were. Unfortunately, it seems I lost the recording of that round, however, the video you provided is more than enough.

    People seem to have a slight misunderstanding about explosive props, simply having one in hand is not traitorous, putting people in danger of the explosion by walking/running at them with it, on the other hand, is a traitorous act.
    As we can see in the video, The victim was not actively forcing any explosive prop upon anyone, thus making it not a traitorous act.
     
  4. Bj007pro

    Bj007pro Active Member

    So where did the gunshot come from at around 0:53? It came from your direction.
    Also, you can clearly see he made an attempt to throw the barrel and failed.
    Thirdly, if it was truly RDM, hobo' had plenty of time to report me himself and never did so, just shows that he knew that it wasn't RDM.
     
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  5. Tybe

    Tybe VIP

    The gunshots from my direction were from Xiva, the traitor behind me wanting to set off the explosives and frame me. Xiva also tossed a grenade that I believe you can see in the video for a split second, the shooting and the grenade were mostly the reasons I was kosing xiva, but none of this is important.

    True, he did toss the barrel into the air, but I ask you, did it land or fly in anyone else's direction? Doesn't seem like it in the video. Nay I say, it went straight up into the air. It would be different if he actually tossed the barrel at another person, but that's not the case.

    It goes back to the original misconception, simply having or "playing" with explosives is not a traitorous act. It's only ever a traitorous act when explosives are forced upon others, putting them in danger.

    And lastly people do have the option of letting things go, but as staff and doing as staff do, we still have to do unreported damage. If I simply ignored what I knew was rdm in front of me just because it wasn't reported, that would make me a trash mod. I believe the victim also thought that he was committing a T act by playing with the props, but this again fits into the misconception and becomes a faux reason to not report someone.
     
  6. Tybe

    Tybe VIP

    Retagging my admin to wrap up since it seems we're done. @Graze
     
  7. Graze

    Graze Zzz... VIP Silver

    @Bj007pro Hello! Thank you for taking the time to report one of my moderators here on the forums. Reports help me understand where potential weaknesses are in my moderator's staffing capabilities.

    What I see here is that you were slain for the kill at 0:56 in the video you provided. I have to agree with my moderator here that the player wasn't placing anyone in danger at the distance you killed him at. It is indeed a common misconception that holding an explosive prop at all is a traitorous act. The player needs to be putting someone in danger with the prop or throwing it at players. Had you walked closer to the player then the slay wouldn't have been issued, but due to the ranges and all the factors involved I ultimately agree with the slay that my moderator has placed here.

    Should you have any questions regarding this decision or any other questions feel free to message me on Steam or start a conversation with me over the forums. Thank you for your time.

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