Invalid Report against El_Festive_Gamer

Name of Staff/Player:

El_Festive_Gamer​

Steam ID of Staff/Player:

STEAM_0:1:53176993​

Your Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:85902496​

Which Server:

East 1​

Which Map:

community pool 2017​

Which Round:

idk​

Time of Occurence:

3:05​

Reason For Report:

false slay​

Evidence And/Or Witnesses:

i killed someone to threatened to kill me after i warned i was shooting barrels and he walked me. i did nothing wrong.​

 

Tagging @El FLaco Gamer and @chazz winkle winkles

 

I have seen this and am gathering my evidence. Thank you for taking the time to report, and I apologize that I wasn't able to deal with your concerns on-server.

 

also was a verbal warning

 

Alright, like I said before I genuinely do appreciate the report as no matter what the ruling is, I get to learn where my weaknesses as a staff member are.

First I'd like to just get the preliminary things out of the way and establish the order of events here:
In these logs you can see that you initiated the damge with an explosive barrel:
https://imgur.com/Xlj1XrL


Now, onto the true matter at hand here, the warning:




As you can see in this video, your first warnings were completely vague, as you never specified which barrels. When you finally gave a somewhat specefic warning "Downstairs", I feel you didn't give a reasonable enough time for people to react accordingly.

• The first warnings could have meant any barrel anywhere on the map, and even the second warning could mean multiple different barrels.
• For the timing, in the video you can see the time between your final warning and the time where you reacted by saying "I warned you, you can't KoS me" was pretty short. (Less than 4 seconds according to my editing software. Which means the timing between your warning and the actual damage was even less)

Additionally, the second time you initiated damage was because Hellflush said "Go into the tester or I will kill you." which is also not a valid reason to kill/damage a player. This was the primary reason I slayed you, but I feel that both instances of damage constitute as RDM and deserved a slay.
Screenshot of your response: https://imgur.com/99JAqqF


A big problem here is that I was unnecessarily slow in responding to your PM'd concerns about this incident. I was dealing with banning somebody for RDM and Leave, but your problem should have taken precedent since your slay was immediate. For that, I would again like to apologize and let you know I will strive to be more conscious of time sensitivity.

Edit: Edited to add screenshot of Moonlight's response to the initital report.

 

anything else to add @C0SM0S ?

 

Hey @C0SM0S,

After reviewing the report and all the aerials and variables within, I've reached a conclusion.

Whenever an innocent warns for using explosives of any nature, whether it be a barrel, nade, or captured t weapon, they need to meet two criteria:
1. A reasonable warning that states you are doing said action so others may get to safety
2. The intent behind said warning must be to harm someone/a group of people you have reasonable belief to believe they are traitors.

Simply warning blowing up barrels in the manner you did doesn't follow the second piece of criteria here, and thus I'll be marking this report invalid as the slay was in fact valid. Feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns.

Cheers,

~chazz winkle winkles