Tsu RDM

Name of Staff/Player : Tsu

Server : East

Time of Occurrence: 9:35-9-40AM Central Time

Reason: Me and Another Person Named Joe Biden Were In a Room Together One Person Came in They both started shooting each other I finished off Joe and I ID'ed Joe and was about to ID the other person then Tsu Came in and RDM'ed me

His Perspective: Saw Two Bodies And One Un-ID'ed So he Assumed I was a Traitor but its not enough evidence when I was about to ID the second person his reason is unvalid.

What he should have done and not: Reacted too fast cuz of a one Un-id body when the other body was ID'ed when I was about to ID the second body and and get me tested.

Map: Terroception V7 (Bottom Right Corner)

Evidence : When I was about ID'ing the second Person As Soon As He shot I didn't shoot back for self defense I should have demo'ed it.

 

Well, I mean, you were in a room alone with an unidentified body. From his perspective, he heard shooting and walked in to see you near an unid body. I probably would have killed you in the same situation. Tsu will respond at his earliest convenience with more information on the situation, though. So please be patient!

 

Map was Terrorception, I was outside, looked into that window into the office (where you can fire ppl) and saw people shooting each other, and 2 ppl died. I was a fair distance away, so it took me a few seconds to reach the location. Once I jumped through the window I saw two people standing there just staring at both unided bodies (they had not just come in). Being that it had already been a few seconds since the two people died, and neither had made a move to ID them, I shot at both of the remaining alive players. Evoke(IGN infinity sky) ran to ID the bodies as he saw me come through the window, but a) at that point I had already started firing and b) a traitor would still go to ID the bodies if they see someone else coming to appear innocent.

http://i.imgur.com/E5KImJN.png

As image shows, the players had died a good few seconds before he IDed them, and he had been in that room the whole time (I can see the doorway from outside the window, and no one walked through). He was starting to ID them when I shot him.

As it turns out, there were 2 of you in that room, the other guy was the traitor, you were inno, I shot at both of you, killed you, he killed me before I could kill him too.

 

"I was outside, looked into that window into the office (where you can fire ppl) and saw people shooting each other, and 2 ppl died. I was a fair distance away, so it took me a few seconds to reach the location. As image shows, the players had died a good few seconds before he IDed them, and he had been in that room the whole time (I can see the doorway from outside the window, and no one walked through). He was starting to ID them when I shot him."

Funny thing is as you uploaded screen shot look at the timers: As soon as I ID'ed both of the body's you still shot me so both of us were wrong about a Un-ID body and this is still a RDM and I know this map fairley well because from going thru the window way you can't see the entrace of that building which is a complete lie by Tsu and from the looks of that log and my self since I the only one in the room it was only me that you killed you didn't kill the T nor saw the T that ran away I was the only person remaining in that room.

 

There's a grace period after IDing a body where you can still be killed for being near an unID'd. Normally less than five seconds. Why? Because people don't comprehend things the instant they happen, while you ID'd both bodies, Tsu started killing you the same second in which you ID'd the second body.

 

http://i.imgur.com/p1OP4Bm.png

As you can see by the second screenshot, immediately after killing you I was shooting the second person in the room (so your statement you were alone in the room was false), which was a traitor, who in turn killed me.

You ided 1 body at the end of 3:20 and one at beginning of 3:21. I made the decision to kill you both at 3:20 and shot at 3:21. I dont have superhuman reflexes to go "okay, he IDed the body, let me look at the top right corner, see it's innocent, and then stop firing" in 1 second.

And I didn't claim to have seen the entrance to that building, but I COULD see the entrance to that room, which you had not walked through, which means you were in that room when the two players died. Also, you claim to have shot Joe in your first post, but my first screenshot clearly shows the T having shot and killed him. So none of your story so far adds up.

 

alright I was wrong about the you seeing the traitor but anyway the traitor was not in that room clearly you instakilled me seeing me two ID body's before you inflicted damage to me within a 1-2 second of it and you just claimed that your previous statement that no one left or entered from the window perspective but regardless of the T he was no in that room and I have ID'ed both of those body's and you still RDM'ed me.

 

The T was directly behind you when I started shooting you, in the room. As I did not have recording on, I cannot prove this, but I believe the fact that he shot me and I started shooting him as soon as you died should be enough to show he was there.

As both I and Zikeji have said, there is a grace period after you ID bodies in which you can still be shot, due to people not being able to instantaneously look to see that you ided, check to see if it was inno, etc. The fact that you were in the room with the dead bodies for a full 6 seconds before you ided them is doubly damning.

At this point I believe we have both sufficiently provided our stories, and what proof we have. I would like an admin to judge on this, and proceed as they see fit.

 

You guys say grace period but after the 2nd person died and I ID'ed Superman which was a time period of 4 seconds you still shot me this is not a grace period of at all and as soon as you jumped thru the window time frame from 1st to 2nd body of 4 seconds is not grace period which was clearly enough time to ID and be proved innocent clearly this was a RDM.

Proof: You didnt see T that killed both people 1-3 seconds looking for other person that killed both of these guys and 1-3 seconds to ID and move onto next victim and knowing that after ID'ing still died and you also weren't their by the time this T ran away and me IDing both of them the evidence is undeniable tsu. and knowing for the fact a T would have just ran away without even looking or ID'ing any of the bodies me looking at the bodies and ID'ing them is truely truely a RDM and I say again no resistance or self defense when you loaded into me a full clip of me standing still case closed.

You saying that I just standed still a full 6 seconds of doing nothing is unvalid and not enough evidence since you weren't watching nor their for that situation when I clearly ID'ed and Justified it no normal inno would just drop and load instantly after seeing two ID'ed bodies.

 

You were still in a room with an unidentified body and that is traitorous. You may have ID'd it, but Tsu saw the unID'd and started shooting you as you were shooting at it. It would have been RDM if say, you ID'd the bodies and 10 seconds later Tsu comes in and kills you.

The logic behind it is that a player should have to wait for someone to ID and unID'd body if they just turned a corner or walked into a room and saw said player with the uniD'd body.

Because Tsu started shooting you the second you ID'd the second body, it is not RDM.

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