We NEED a balance reset

I believe the entire server should be reset for a multitude of reasons, but at the very least, we need a balance reset. The new changes will be rendered either useless or pointless otherwise.

In order to match the massive wealth people in Baltop already have (And DTK and I share money, so please remember that I am still greatly wealthy as I say this), we would have to have Jobs give such large volumes of cash that money would be rendered almost worthless again. If we just leave it alone, people with a shit-ton of money, Who already have everything that you could think of or want as far as other assets go, will completely dominate the market, because they have enough money to buy anything on a whim.

We need some sort of reset. I advocate for a complete server reset, because it will allow us to add logistically difficult things, like Factions, but a Balance reset is required if we ever want this server to recover. Everything being done is nice, but it is like applying bandages instead of stitches. There is a small chance of it working, but a far greater chance of making things worse, and the longer we wait to make such changes, the more damage that will be done in the end.

I know, it sucks, but there were some serious mistakes made early on. Nobody wants to reset anything, because it messes up legitimate work. But if you want it completely restored, it has to be done, and holding off on it doesn't help anything.

 

sell cactus and sugar cane. ez profit on every server. One day you'll learn the ways of minecraft servers.

 

Reset but let me keep the claim blocks I Afk'd so long for

 

No? The balance reset needs to wait until the market changes hit a plateau. Right now the market is still being modified for balance, if we reset now and even more changes occur we might have to call for yet another balance reset - let's just wait.

Also, resetting now is going to be even harder with player shops. Someone with a ton of money might just buy out all the chestshops and leave all those players with a ton of money they then need to get rid of.

 

To my knowledge, and ive talked with the devs and Robo about this, a Server Reset is not being considered atm.
I do agree that balance should be changed, but not reset. Balance as it is along with the market should be changed drastically and the wealth already gathered by players should be only worth what the player competition dictates, not the market. As we have discussed in multiple occasions, and here im exposing my own opinion and only that, the best approach would be to make the market a place where you can only get cosmetics, abilities, and other perks with the money you earn. Money is earned by selling goods to other players through auctions like always, but listings are removed (they make competition impossible) and job income is drastically increased. This comes along with multiple other changes that would make it the best alternative/approach. I dont say that I dont want a balance reset because I have a lot of money (500 something K), but because resetting the balance only to keep the same problematic mechanics that made everything lose value in the first place is a bit unnecessary.

 

I've worked hard to get the money I have, I realize not everyone has but honestly it isn't too hard to get the money you need for what you want so long as you are selling things people want. I know eventually devs may consider a balance reset, or not, and then I will just deal with it. But rn I do not believe a balance reset is needed or prioritized over other server changes.

Regardless, the server is still fun and nice to play on so long as you know how to entertain yourself.

 

The open forum discussion basically shot down the idea of a reset. You don't fire the nukes to put out a forest fire.

 

To be fair there were two arguments, the "You don't fire the nukes to put out a forest fire." and "If a cup gets a hole you replace the cup instead of taping over the hole.".

Regardless of which holds more truth, I don't think a full balance reset would be wise just yet.

 

On that we are in agreement...the system needs fixing first. To further the idea, while you might replace a cup that has a hole in it, you should fix what's causing the holes first before getting a new cup.

 

If the reset can bring back my house that got burnt down then so be it!

 

How did your house get burnt down? There is no fire spread on the server.

 

REMEMBER THAT HOUSE I BUILT, OR DID YOU JUST BURN IT DOWN. I DIDNT EVEN PUT UP A FIGHT DIDNT EVEN SEE IT GO DOWN, FOUND A WAY TO BECOME A MOD I KNEW HOW THE ENTIRE TIME NOW I CAN BAN YOU HERE GOT MY PERMISSIONS NOW, ITS LIKE MY TIME TO SHINE EVERY RULE YOU WERE BREAKING THE TIME THAT HAS COME NOW IM GONNA HAVE TO BAN YOU NOW, IVE STARTED TYPING IN THE COMMAND SURROUNDED BY YOUR DISGRACE NOW THAT THE COMMAND IS TYPED IN. YOU KNOW YOU DESERVE THIS I DONT NEED YOU ANYMORE ITS WRITTEN ALL OVER YOUR STATUS WALL HACKING IS NOT ALLOWED NOT ON MY MINECRAFT SERVER, !!I BAN YOU!! DONT EVEN APPEAL ON THE FORUMS, I WONT FALL FOR THAT YOURE NOT THE ONLY PERSON IVE BANNED THINK WED ESCAPE THIS NOW, I SWORE ID NEVER PERMA BAN YOU, OH WAIT WHO IS THAT IN THE DISTANCE I REALLY CANT BELIEVE MY EYES HOW ARE YOU BACK IN, LOOKS LIKE ITS MY TIME TO SHINE, EVERY RULE YOU WERE BREAKING THIS IS THE TIME TO STOP NOW IM GONNA HAVE TO BAN YOU NOW IVE STARTED TYPING IN THE COMMAND SURROUNDED BY YOUR DISGRACE, THE COMMAND IS TYPED IN NOW CANT YOU SEE YOU DESERVE THIS !! I BANNNN YOOOOUUUU! *HARMONIOUS OUTRO* I BANNNEED YOUUUUUUUUU. IVE STARTED TYPING IN THE COMMAND SURROUNDED BY YOUR DISGRACE NOW THAT THE COMMAND IS TYPED IN. YOU KNOW YOU DESERVE THIS I DONT NEED YOU ANYMORE ITS WRITTEN ALL OVER YOUR STATUS WALL HACKING IS NOT ALLOWED ON MY MINECRAFT SERVER, !!I BAN YOU!! that's right no cheaters on this server *SINISTER LAUGH*

 

A balance reset isn't nukes if everyone has the chance to spend it.

The simple truth is you will never get to number 1 in baltop unless the person there just stops playing. It's unlikely that you will progress far in the ranks. And it should be a priority, because the longer we wait, the more damage it will do.


@Kyle the Penguin @Zikej @Robokiller87 @irritatingness

How are we going to fix the problem? You have fixed half: The market doesn't make money for us anymore. We have to earn it through jobs or by trading. But unless you make Jobs give so much money that people can reasonably surpass Kyle, people like me and Kyle will always in control of the market, because we will have so many more assets. There isn't any point in me selling anything, either, because I have so much more money than everyone else, so it just wouldn't be worth it.

 

tbh I really don't care about being #1 on the baltop or even in the top percentage. I have as much money as I need and I have fun when I play. That's all that really matters IMO. So long as you have fun why do you need tons and tons of money that you'll never spend???

 

I don't care about SMC much anymore, but as a suggestion for the future: if you're looking to get accurate polling information about how many people want something vs. don't want something, leave it to just those two options. I tend to see that this is a recurring theme with polls, and adding little joke responses just skew the data and takes away from the opinions of the people who would honestly pick one of the more useful answers to the poll. If someone is not involved in Minecraft or they have no opinion, they simply don't vote on the poll, so there is no real need for selections other than I support or I do not support.

 

I don't. I have literally everything I would want or need. There is absolutely no point in me playing the game anymore, because there is nothing left for me to do.

However, I enjoy trading. I enjoy fairly getting to the top. I want the ability to trade, and I want my trade to have actual value to it.

Edit: Which, it will either never have, or will takes months until it would have value, without a bal reset

 

I agree, but I made a similiar poll before (without the jokes), and everyone wanted bal reset. The results are about the same this time around. Most people want a bal reset, or dont care about it, and usually people who want a bal reset are amongst those with the most to lose, which I do think gives more weight to their opinion

 

About some having more to lose than others. That gives no weight to their opinion. Everyone loses. Just because those with more want something doesn't mean those with less's wants are any less valid. Besides, if you had already polled for this in the past, then there is already information out there for the staff to see. Why make a poll if you've already polled it you know? I'm certain that the staff are aware that there are players who want a balance reset.

 

I get what you are saying, but this is one of the cases where people with more to lose should have a bigger voice. Someone who just joined the server won't have the same balance as someone who has been with the server since founding. If they have $100, which can be made in seconds, why would their opinion matter as much as someone with $100000000? One of them actually has something to lose

As to why another poll? Because devs still aren't willing, and I am sure that some people who make the decisions might think less people want it after the reent changes. Which, appears to be true, but its also clear more people than not want the change.

We need the balance reset before the economy can be called fixed. The longer we wait, the more damage that will occur. And the less likely we are to get the necessary change.

 

If you got a ton of items through exploits, would you be allowed to keep them? Say you could get infinite diamonds over time, through an exploit, and then that exploit was removed. You have a hundred chests full of diamond blocks. Would that mean we could keep those diamonds?

@HelixSpiral @The Law @Milo