Patrick straight up leaked, idk what machine did or gun did. I also dunno why the bans are permanent. I haven't seen a reason for it so I can't give an opinion on if its justified or not.
Whether or not they're great doesn't make them immune to consequences. Nor are leadership obliged to satisfy your curiosity for "evidence". Especially if said evidence contains information that shouldn't be made public (which it likely does).
You were in the discord, Patrick posted a pic of admin discussions, Machine discussed the contents of recommend admins, and Gun discussed what happened in the staff discord. I don't know if they've done more than that but to say they've done nothing wrong is a straight up lie. Do I think they deserved a perma? Machine and Pat didn't, but the other two might have.
I did not actually see that. If that was the case, then I have been sorely mistaken and placing faith in the wrong people. I was AFK for a time and came back to not being in that discord, and what I found out was the discord was deleted, for whatever reason.
I dont know which one you are referring too, but yes there is a staff discord, an unofficial SGM discord and last night a discord made by a few of the former staff members to cause more trouble. EDIT: The discord from last night has been closed, so ive been told.
The other discord from last night was not made to cause trouble or plot raids or spray CP over the servers. It was a unofficial shoutbox replacement.
C'mon guys let's end this and start again. Dude we have another discord server made by @Qwesi, why would you like to create another one?
To clear things up about that discord and this whole "raiding" thing: it was made so we could communicate since the shoutbox was taken down and things were far from resolved. There was no rioting in the hours I was on it, and most of the former staff and others that were involved first-hand left the main channel after telling everyone what they knew, and went somewhere else to talk amongst themselves possibly, i'm not sure. The main channel that contained mainly people that weren't involved including myself. I was there because Highwon just demoted some of my oldest friends and I wanted to know why everything happened the way it did. As far as I know, someone put a swastika in chat and everyone realized they could do this so they started spamming it, much as the multiple gifs were spammed in the shoutbox. Immature shit, probably referencing their feelings on highwon's reign of power and the similarities to a dictatorship. Anyway, there was nothing ever said for a majority of the discord being up about raiding any servers, nothing serious was being planned and if it was brought up we basically told them to shut up and don't be stupid. As far as the cp, wow. I left the discord because lots of straight minded people were leaving the discord and it was turning into a true shitshow, and it could be agreed that it wasn't a representative of any of the actions or thoughts of the original discord attendance. None other than Jackie the White Wolf had shown up, and brought apparently a friend of his, and they were posting some memes and some edgy shit, who would have guessed. I assume that the cp sprays had happened after I had left, which was around 2am Cst. If you would like any confirmation on the transparency of this, ask @My Dime Is Up because I guess he was there https://gyazo.com/333fd5444ce9a359f2c54bab34a1bbc5
Random nobody here. This has been quite the entertaining read. I can imagine all the trolls that ever meant the server harm are laughing their asses off. Anyway, I'm sure the server will rise from this like a phoenix. This server managed to make it to the top in Gmod of all places where like 50 new servers are started a day. All I'll say is this, despite whatever happened, this is the least cancerous TTT server in the world. The staff are great, the rules are mostly fair and the community is solid enough to restructure itself when necessary. I'm sure SGM will survive. Just stop trying to flex your e-muscles, stop shooting up your fingers to type on the forums all day, and the healing process might go smoothly.
Damn, what a fantastic time to come back hahaha. In the end will this reallllllyyyyy affect our personal life's.
I think I know what should happen. Everyone who was involved in the madness of last night should jump on a new discord channel. Everyone acts professionally. Talks calmly. And one my one. Everyone goes in calm and comes out calm. All info is shared be it private or public. No one is judged and the leave with the same reputation they had as they walked in. And the convo is recorded too. And put to YouTube. Then linked in the forums for all to see. One way or the other, This gets sorted. Not through text on a screen but with a voice. Who is on in agreement with me on this?