Completed Report against Jolly Saint Rick

Name of Staff/Player:

Jolly Saint Rick​

Steam ID of Staff/Player:

STEAM_0:0:51117776​

Your Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:65977332​

Which Server:

EU​

Which Map:

MC DOLLS V2​

Which Round:

Last Round​

Time of Occurence:

Today before a bit 5:20 PM​

Reason For Report:

So today. A player(Lets call him "X") pushed another player into the fan(which can instakill anyone) luckily that player didnt die because he was holding a corpse above his head.Afterwards I put into the chat: "X is a traitor" multiple times.Then I followed X which ended in me killing him.
Jolly which had no proof (screenshot as the map changed) and only with one admin being his eyewitness.Jolly slayed me for 1 round. I protested in private against his measure and also about the evidence(which he didnt had)
he still left the slay on.​

Evidence And/Or Witnesses:

http://imgur.com/AL3Tgnp -Here i explained him the situation and he still didn't want to admit his mistake.
http://imgur.com/YMx1Y2m -He admitted no evidence after the map has changed(Normally he should have screenshotted it already).
http://imgur.com/uNjM1R0 -When asking him about the proof and the slay he didnt answer.He surelly was like this because he had nothing to say.

NO Actual proof + slay = abuse. He should have made it by then.Hope you warn him for his mistake.​

 

Going to tag @Jolly Saint Rick for his side of things and @CDriscoll or @Kyogre for the final verdict.

 

Hello, and thank you for taking the time to report me. I am also going to tag @Snowlar , given he also played witness to this situation.

Please give me a short while here to gather the damage log screenshots. I did not record the deathscene in question, as I didn't suspect such a large outrage to come from a rightful slay. To address the supposed lack of proof, I explained to Mr. Crainstorm here that once the map had changed, I could no longer view deathscene, thus, unable to demo the situation from my eyes. I ceased conversing because I had already directed you to make a report here on the forums to discuss it further. I will provide at least the damage logs momentarily.

In regards to the rule you are seeking to aid you here, ( pushing someone in to a potentially dangerous situation ), I will say only that at no point did the reporting player commit such an act, they were standing far to the back side of the fan and you gunned them down with no valid reasoning. @Snowlar viewed the same scene as myself, as I asked him to in admin chat, and confirmed my belief that it was in fact RDM and deserved the slay I issued.

 

Spoiler: The Report

As I have stated, I do not have a video of the deathscene, only my word and that of @Snowlar to express why I issued this slay.

 

Retagging @Opalium as he is our new lead Admin. He will decide the final verdict.

 

Hi! @Jolly Saint Rick asked me to also investigate on this matter.

Although pushing people into potentially dangerous locations (that may damage/kill them) is KOS-able, what I saw in the shadowplay is that the player you killed had not pushed the player into a potentially dangerous location. The reason is, the player was very far from the fan as the shadowplay. It would have also shown that the player gets flung by the fan, but the player didn't. In addition, if the player would be pushed from that angle, he wouldn't take damage as he's standing behind the fan, and would just land on the same platform in the map.

Unfortunately, this is all I can add as I don't have any screenshots or videos to put since I wasn't the one who actually handled the report.

 

That player who was pushed could have been killed ! So I did my job to KOS and kill the other one.I got a slay for no reason.Also I got RDMed afterwards.

 

Hey Crainstorm, thanks for sending in your report.

I'm going to make this short as most things were already mentioned: the lack of proof from Rick's side is indeed an issue. All staff punishments need to be backed with usable, valid evidence, as our policy here in SGMod is that no one is guilty until proven so. Even though Rick did check the related death scene and made his verdict according to it, the error here is in being unable to provide it later once required.
Due to this, I am going to mark this report as Valid. I have spoken with Rick already to ensure the same won't happen again. This is a situation we can all learn from and I thank you for bringing this up.

Have a great day!
~Opalium