Ban Appeal

In-game nickname: Donut
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:15287758
Sever: Serious TTT East

Reason: Incorrect RDM call

I killed a T in the following circumstance:

Round on bowling alley map. Was "Innocent".
- I heard gunfire in lobby area of bowling map while in the middle of the bowling alley, where the counter is
- I move over there and see only one person who is near the corpse
- I check the corpse. It was an innocent killed with a pistol (secondary weapon)
- The person near the corpse asked me to check my secondary. I had the type of gun that was used to kill the person, they called suspicion on me.
- The person did not check their own secondary. Classic T tactic.
- I immediately shot and killed the T.
- Please tell me how the FUCK that is RDM? It's more like they were mad because I shot first and called RDM to make up for their own failure.

Also, I suspect I was banned because I left the server in the midst of the RDM call. I had to leave because it's Christmas and I had to open my presents and be there when others open my presents. Please consider this; servers where I can actually play this damn game are really hard to find because I always get banned or slain for killing T's and have then whine about RDM over it.

 

I banned you. You killed someone for asking you what secondary you had. This is not prohibited and will be punished with a slay. However, you left very quickly after the incident while I was dealing with a ban on another person. You knew you were accused of RDM and you left, therefor I banned you for RDM & Leave.
The ban will stay unless an admin thinks otherwise.
Feel free to play on our other servers West and West 2.

 

I really had to go. I thought that I wouldn't be slain for it because I seriously did not think that was an RDM. I had evidence. And I did not kill them explicitly for asking what secondary I had. That part would not have meant anything if they checked their own secondary.

 

What was your evidence?

We kill traitors for evidence beyond reasonable doubt. There could have been doubt in your theory.

All you would have had to do was stay during your slay round and then leave afterwards. You could have even went AFK and the server would have kicked you when it was full.

 

I understand that. I just did not think that was an RDM. I had to go.

Anyway, I guess it's clear I'm not going to win this argument. My evidence was no one else was near the corpse, for me that in addition to the sidearm-show, made beyond reasonable doubt.
Oh, last note: I'm not sure if the corpse was ID'd or not.

And if I did not shoot the T, he would have shot me. To me that is the most powerful business. He was aiming at my head and I shot first. Boohoo, he goes! RDM, he goes!

 

Why not unban him then slay him for 2-5 rounds?

 

In my opinion, I do not think your ban should be not lifted. You had no idea what the guy was killed with and you killed a person based off of suspicion. Then, you consider to say things like "boo hoo" and what not, which will not help your case.

 

If that's reason enough for a ban, then I must have absolutely no idea how this game is played. How do you win if you can't do that? What was I supposed to do, let him kill me? I really don't understand the rule.

There was gunfire, and no other exit outside of the area. I had sight of the area the entire time, except for behind the walls where it was all going down. When I got there, I saw a dead body, and someone standing near it. There was no possible way for anyone else to have been there and left without me seeing them. I place suspicion on the guy there. The guy then questions me, someone who has just walked into this, what side-arm I have and says that the weapon I used was the same type that was used to kill the dead guy. He places suspicion on me. I don't see how he could not be a T now. Shot, yep, he was a T.

It seems to me like I'm being punished for winning. I don't get that.

 

You won because you broke the rules

You cant kill on suspicion
Kill on suspicion = RDM
RDM = slay 1 round
RDM + Leave = ban 5 days
read the motd by !motd

 

Okay, now that's clear.

Now why can't you kill on suspicion? That's saying you can't kill on evidence. If you can't do either/or, then how do you win if you aren't a Traitor?

And if those are the rules, then plenty of other people should be being slain for RDM'ing. In that same match I put down a trip mine (as traitor), no one saw me do it, but they still killed me for it because I was in the area when it happened. I chock that up as my own mistake for not having the coast clearer when I put down that mine. As I see it, the traitor that I shot made the same mistake.

And again, I was near an area, as an innocent, where someone set off a barrel and killed someone else. An innocent killed me for being within the same area when the barrel went off. That was his mistake, not an "RDM" and a loss is punishment enough for errors like that.

 

The only evidences you can KOS on are people's last words and last seen
for example (I think?)

BananaCoconuts died
His Last words : SmithK is a Traitor!
Weapon Killed With : Knife
Last Seen : Smithk

 

You cannot KOS for players last seen and the only way you can KOS on last words is if it is "So and So is a Traitor!"

 

The last scenario you gave was RDM. The only way that it wouldn't have been RDM is if you were shooting at him or you ran away from an unID'd body.

 

But killing a suspected, but not proven, traitor isn't RDM? Then I should be unbanned...

 

Killing a suspected, not proven traitor, is still RDM. You cannot kill another player based on suspicion.

Your ban appeal is Denied.

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