Completed Report against Ze Homeless Mann

Discussion in 'TTT Staff/Player Reports' started by Sleezy, Oct 16, 2014.

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  1. Sleezy

    Sleezy VIP

    Name of Staff/Player:
    Ze Homeless Mann
    Steam ID of Staff/Player:
    STEAM_0:1:34185504
    Which Server:
    West 2
    Which Map:
    cs_Assualt
    Time of Occurence:
    5:25 A.M. MTN Time
    Reason For Report:
    admitted to ghosting with Wompzilla (STEAM_0:0:53336498).

    In chat Womp says that he can see the dead unid'd bodies using Tab as an innocent. Then after I said someone is telling him inside information and Ze openly admitted right after. Then in chat Ze uses the same excuse as though he knew that Womp said it through pm to me.

    Also a shot of cornwallis harrasing. (STEAM_0:0:51512406)​
    Evidence And/Or Witnesses:
     
  2. Wompzilla

    Wompzilla Former Administrator Banned VIP Silver

    First of all, there were no unIDed bodies left. There were 4 players. Me, Ellie, another inno, and the T. We were on the map cs_assault. I was on the roof with ellie (the other inno) that could only be reached by crossing the fence. I was behind the building, so I was able to see everyone at the railroad since that side of the building is missing its texture. The T got onto the railroad track, and killed Ellie as I watched. Then I saw T turn to the other side, I saw tracers shoot from his gun, and I heard a scream, so obviously he had killed the other inno. It was obvious who the T was.

    As for Ze Homeless Man... Yes, he did whisper to me, but he was trying to trick me the other time. After I had killed him, he whispered saying "btw, the other guy on the roof is a T". I had told him that I couldn't kill that person based on that. The thing is, that other person was ellie. Ze homeless man was trying to trick me through whispers into killing a fellow inno.

    Later on, when I started shooting at the T, and he hid behind a pillar. Sleezy then called me an rdmer for shooting that T. I'm assuming he did not pay attention, so I tried explaining to him how I knew he was a T. I was paying attention to the argument I was having with sleezy, so I wasn't paying attention to what the T was doing. When I finished with him, I asked the T "Are you still behind the pillar? I wasn't paying attention". Ze homeless man told me that he was, but the T had moved to a different place than the one I was focusing on. I'm assuming ze was trying to make me focus on the same pillar so that I wouldn't noticed the T off to the side with a sniper trying to kill me.


    In the picture, you see exactly what I'm talking about. Ze tells everyone that he's lying to me...
    Check chat logs as proof that everything that I have said is true.
     
  3. All I know is, I was on the roof with womp and Ze. I heard a gunshot, went to check it out and saw Ze on the ground dead. I checked his body and he was a T. Later I died from a sniper as someone was saying watch out Ellie. To me the whole thing looks like a miscomunication because it was obvious who the traitor was. But I can see how sleezy thought he was being told who the traitor was.
     
  4. TheEvilMouse

    TheEvilMouse Member

    I was also on the server and did see "Ze Homeless Man" admit to ghosting with Wompzilla. Wompzilla did claim that you can see who is dead when you hold TAB and there were un-IDs including my own body if I remember correctly.
     
  5. Sleezy

    Sleezy VIP

    If that is true then how did he know that you pmed me about pressing tab to "check for any missing people" as an innocent? Doesn't that seem just a little suspicious? Also there were unid's. he had killed those 2 within 10 seconds before you and him were the last ones. he had no time to id them and you were on the roof and had no way of seeing the unid bodies never mind id them.
     
  6. Sleezy

    Sleezy VIP

    Also thank you for confirming that he was attempting to ghost.
     
  7. Wompzilla

    Wompzilla Former Administrator Banned VIP Silver

    There were no unIDed bodies when there were 4 people left. When the T killed the 2 others, Ellie, and I'm assuming you as well Mouse, thats when there were 2 unIDs. Other than that, everyone else was accounted for. Besides, like I said before, I saw the T kill the people. If you look at the screenshot and see where I'm standing, you'd know that spot, and you'd know that you can see the railroad from that side.

    But I don't think, I'll be able to convince you with that. I'll let the staff prove it to you.
     
  8. Han

    Han       VIP

    • Do not comment on Reports/Appeals that you are not involved with
    Though this is probably unnecessary as Sleezy has proven what Ze said ( With pictures. ) I can also confirm that he admitted to ghosting.

    I'm curious why Wompzilla would just lie about the tab thing, as it obviously wasn't true, but I won't really bother with that.
     
  9. Wompzilla

    Wompzilla Former Administrator Banned VIP Silver

    Either I'm going crazy, or you guys are misunderstanding what I'm saying, but I'm pretty sure that there were no unIDed bodies when there were only 4 people left. There were 2 unIDed bodies after the T had killed 2 people, but I was able to tell that those 2 were dead due to actually seeing one of their deaths and hearing the other person die. I saw the T actually kill ellie and I saw the tracers going from the T's gun to the other inno when I heard the other person die.

    Ze was whispering to me, however he was telling me lies to kill my own team member and to help his own team mate.

    Staff can read for themselves that he never told me who was the T.

    Also, idk if lying counts as ghosting, but thats all he did. Thats why I said he didn't ghost. He never gave me an advantage over his the other team.
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2014
  10. Wompzilla

    Wompzilla Former Administrator Banned VIP Silver

    I said that I used tab to see whose alive. Like I said before, there were 4 innos before the T did his killing. Then he killed the 2 that I mentioned many times that I saw and heard him kill. The 2 missing people you saw on the list were the 2 people i knew got killed. He didn't need to ID them for me to know that they were dead because I already knew that they were dead.
     
  11. Sleezy

    Sleezy VIP

    This report was mainly meant to show that Ze was in fact attempting to ghost. The fact that you rdmed that round is irrelevant and so is the harassment that cornwallis committed.
     
  12. Sinz

    Sinz crumble VIP Silver

    @wompzilla,

    Do you, by chance, happen to have an image of the chat log showing the player "Ze Homeless Mann" private messaged you with false information?
     
  13. Wompzilla

    Wompzilla Former Administrator Banned VIP Silver

    Sorry, I do not. I'm guessing the chat doesn't get saved to the logs then? :/
     
  14. Sinz

    Sinz crumble VIP Silver

    It does not.

    And unfortunately, without evidence of what he said to you in private message, nothing more can be done about this report. The context cannot be assumed and us as staff members, cannot ban players without sufficient evidence. You claim he provided you with false information, but how do we know this? Even with admittance, we need proof. We don't slay players because they say "I RDMed" in chat and we don't ban players for saying "I hack". We gather evidence and make decisions based off of them.
     
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