Completed Report against Kenny

Name of Staff/Player:

Kenny​

Steam ID of Staff/Player:

STEAM_0:1:65474095​

Which Server:

East 1​

Which Map:

Whitehouse​

Time of Occurence:

8:55 PM EST​

Reason For Report:

Falsely slayed for killing a traitor in crossfire between another T. There was a big shootout happening and I was trying to shoot at slappycakes or whatever his name is but his T buddy was caught in my aim. Yes the logs say I took multiple shots at him because we were in a tight hallway space near the presidential office in whitehouse. I killed his T buddy and slappy ran off, now since there were multiple bodies around, detectives and unids, I barely took chase and returned to the scene(so detective/s dont kill me) until slappy came back into the same shootout area and killed an inno and then was shot dead by me. Kenny, Now that I have time to post here you may come and say I changed my story around but in the heat of the moment I had to message you a quick bland scenario before the slay was given, then you said I changed it - which so what I didn't ID the traitor's body(took a brief chase to slappy before returning as stated above), that shouldn't be a "Oh you changed the story"​

Evidence And/Or Witnesses:

I am requesting to see the logs, both damage and shot logs showing the shootout/crossfire. I asked Kenny to post them here so I can take a look and see if it was a valid slay in my head, so I can feel relieved that it wasn't even if it turns out to be.​

 

@Kenny

 

@Kenny will reply at his earliest convenience. Please be patient.

 

While were at it, before Kenny became an admin, I was told by him that slays will never be voided( at first he said they can be voided and then said he won't remove/will never be voided)... Honestly don't care about the slay on my record, just making a record and asking if that is true because basically he got away with a free-slay at that time, I have the chat logs if anyone needs proof.

 

Hello there Junior!

I slayed you because you claimed crossfire after you killed "Ninjarecker" and you said you were trying to shoot @Slappycakes. I didn't believe you when you said it was crossfire for these reasons:

1. You shot Ninjarecker 3 times before killing him, making it seem like you were intending to kill him.
2. You never damaged Slappycakes before or during when you killed Ninjarecker; you killed Slappycakes about 10 seconds after you killed Ninjarecker, disproving your excuse of "crossfire".
3. I then asked why you took so long to kill Slappycakes after you killed Ninjarecker and you said you were identifying bodies so you wouldn't be killed, but you had identified no bodies in between the time frame of killing Ninjarecker to killing Slappycakes, you then said "k fine, i was running after him", changing your story and giving yourself less credibility.

@Frag was the Trial Moderator who handled the report initially.

Spoiler: Logs of Junior killing Ninjarecker

Spoiler: Logs of Junior then killing Slappycakes

Spoiler: Chat logs

I apologize if this actually was crossfire, but i must take the logs word over yours.

 

Thanks for posting the logs, you can see it wasn't a 10 second interval between the killing of Ninja and slappy and the identification of both traitors at the end of the shootout confirms the brief chase of slappy my initial target... else I would have IDED the body of Ninja if he was my only target.

 

My bad, it was about 5 seconds. Even so, crossfire is usually indicated with the quick killing/damaging of multiple players within the same second, or the next second. A 5 second interval and with no initial damage to Slappy while you were killing Ninjarecker indicates that it was not crossfire through the logs. As i said, i apologize if it was really crossfire but i cannot take your word over the logs.

 

I would agree with you if i had an automatic gun, I had a colt so its 1 shot ... 1 shot... etc and usually aiming for the head. Going to mention again that Ninja was in the middle of me and slappy in the tight hallway as i stated above.

 

I did not know the situation when the report was issued, nor when the slay was issued. It would make some amount of sense that he ran away and it took some time in that situation, but when i issued the slay i had not known you were in a "tight hallway" with him and he was in the middle, if i had known i probably would not have slain you. It would have been better if you put more in the response than just "crossfire", because without explaining the entirety of the situation in the report response it looked like RDM.

 

Hey junior
I'm going to go ahead and mark this as invalid on the grounds that there was quite the time interval between the kills, and crossfire seems unlikely. Message staff if you come across anymore evidence.

 

It is possible that it was cf considering I have killed my t buddy countless times bc ever time I opened fire my tbuddy runs into my shots and I never managed to damage the inno I was killing.