Hello, I would like to suggest a change in the rules... There are some rules that need to be added to the rules.... Ex: It is not KOSable if a player is refusing to get tested, even if told by a detective. There are many rules that still need to be included to help the STTT community understand all the rules. Players are getting punished for things that aren't allowed, but aren't listed in the rules. These unwritten rules need to be added to the rules, hopefuly this will clear up some confusion on whats wrong and whats right.
Our lead admin, @ComPeter, is writing up a rulebook that clarifies those unspoken rules that you are asking about and expands on the MOTD by quite a bit.
I get killed for it every now and again when I venture over to Vanilla. It doesn't happen as much as the East or West servers but it happens.
We don't really need a rule since the rule is already there. If it doesn't say forcing someone to test is allowed, it isn't. Killing someone for refusing to test is killing on suspicion and consequently RDM. I think you more want a clarification in the rules so people have less of an excuse.
We have room for it so why not? It's something I personally get asked a lot, and having it in the MOTD would make it much easier.
Killing someone for not testing is the same as killing on suspicion. Also, read the traitorous acts; it doesn't say that refusing to test is traitorous. Traitorous acts state what you can kill for; if it's not in traitorous acts, you can't kill for it.
Not a lot of people make that connection as you and I do, which is why I am rooting for its addition under clarifications.
I think we should add a note that says, "By playing on the Serious TTT servers, you are showing your acknowledgement that you understand and will abide by the server rules. If you have a questions regarding a rule(s), please ask any of the staff. Thank You." We gotta remember that if we add too much to the rules, players will both other reading them, as some already don't. We can't hold everyone's hand and explain everything in detail in the MOTD. We will always have players that try to use the excuse that it isn't in the MOTD and when they say that you say to them, "Please type !motd and look at the traitorous acts and tell me which one the player you killed was committing." I bet they wouldn't use that excuse again; it only takes one mess up to learn it. "If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough."
We have room, and adding it would do no harm. I'm not saying we add every little detail, but something as common and controversial across quite a few servers should at the very least get a clarification.
I think we should also change the rule about throwing Discomb being KOSable everywhere. It should be only when its around high-ground where it could hurt someone or definitely kill anyone from gravity. Also, getting hurt (1 or 2 damage) from prop because of discomb shouldn't be KOSable (unless someone died of that, which is hilarious and Kosable) Second suggestion. On overtime, we should be allowed to kill on suspicion to advoid delaying (which happens a lot, delaying) I think we all have enough experience as TTT players to define what suspicion is, without falling into Mass RDM. Per exemple, I know that if I suspect someone and I end up killing him on overtime for suspicion (and he was an Inno) I wont go around and kill randomly people. Il just kill one person and if that person is inno, I wont kill anyone else. I forgot to add this, you can't kill someone for having the same weapon used to kill an innocent (unless its a T weapon and you are not proven)
Discombob's will always be KOSable, that will never changes. Just because you know what suspicion is, which may i add literally means NOTHING. How do you define what suspicion is? This will never ever change. And You can't kill someone for having the same weapon as being killed by, unless you watch them do it, or it is in fact a Traitor Weapon.
Throwing any greande besides smoke is a traitorous act because they have the poetential to hurt other players. I don't think that rule should be changed. Killing on suspicion in overtime is still rdm because well it was a suspicion kill and you may or may not have any evidence that the suspicious player has committed a traitorous act. (Which is enough reason to kill him if that player did commit a traitorous act)
