Since everyone is worried about the double barrel being overpowered. I wouldnt want it removed. maybe changing of the weps in the shop / spawn. Switch Double barrel to be a detective weapon and the Detective weapon " Jack hammer" to be able to be spawn/bought from point shop. This will still have the double barrel in the game but still usable in the game as a detective weapon. Please make this change tdlr; switch the double barrel with the jack hammer and vise versa.
I agree that the double barrel should be in the detective shop, but the jack hammer is also pretty OP and if that happens we should nerf the jack hammer.
Both shotguns are op. Switching them would just deliver a different op shotgun into the hands of innocents.
It's been suggested a bunch, but the only way this would work, is make the jackhammer and T wep, and DB a D wep.
How about we all stop complaining about the DB for the sake of complaining. Its far from OP and has gone through multiple nerfs. Just stop.
Well it may have been nerfed and isn't OP, but that doesn't mean that it's balanced. IMO an Inno shouldn't have access to a weapon that easily one-hits people, that's something that should be reserved for D's or T's. The DB may not as easily 1-hit as it used to, but it still does. If you look at the other 2 inno shotguns(Auto and 870) they can 1-hit, but it may require a headshot or maybe getting super close, which is balanced. Where the DB you can just put the cursor over the problem person's body and be a little away, and BOOM, they're a goner. I also understand that if you miss, you have the waiting period of reloading, but most of the time you at least do massive damage, or are far enough away to take cover to reload. That's my opinion on the DB, and why it should be a D/T shop item.
Honestly the people I still see complaining are players who, for the most part, aren't very good. There is many a gun that can out perform the Db by a mile. The sl8 is a beast, just like the colt, deagle, raging bull, ak47, and barret. I almost never use the db, not because it is op, but because it just isn't a very viable option for killing more than one person at a time. I can walk into a room hs four people with an sl8 at close range and walk out unscathed. That will never happen with a db. If you don't want to get killed by one then keep your distance and you never will.
To add to that if you don't get a PERFECT shot up close, you'll only do 80-90 damage now. I find myself a lot of times having to whip out my secondary to finish someone off (Sig Sauer best pistol NA).
There are times when you can't keep distance, sadly. When you're left in a room with someone with a DB, he can rek you. Although the DB seems pretty weak from 5m+ since the last nerf, there's still the fact that if all the bullets hit you, you're done. Just walk up to them, shoot, and keep on moving forward. The thing is, there are plenty of tight corridors on plenty of our maps, which makes the DB a hit and run weapon. If someone walks up to you, you really can't outrun him, unless you go round a corner and into a secret room (highly unlikely, I don't know any rooms/paths that fits that description). There's no reaction time when the guy runs by you. Basically, we've fixed the ultra long range killing factor. We've fixed the mid range killing factor. We need to fix the damage values per body part. If you're hit by 50% or even less of the bullets, on any part of your body, you're fucked. With the wider cone, it's much easier to kill someone close up without aiming.
No, due to alot of things mentioned in this thread: http://www.seriousttt.com/threads/double-barrel-poll.7118 Read through it if you wish.
Just putting my long opinion out there. If you don't want to read the long opinion, there's a short summary at the bottom. All guns are only as powerful as the user, some players have difficulty using a HK SL8, some people are beasts with it. I've been able to get a 8 killstreak with a Mac10 which is usually seen as an undesirable gun. The HUGE is obviously a different story. The DB has the ability to one hit KO at close range. The tradeoff for this ability is only being able to fire one shot and having to reload immediately. This also means that because of the close range, the DNA stays there a lot longer. This weapon also has the problem of what happens after you kill a person. If the person is with a group or sticking to someone, you probably will die after firing a shot unless the other people are horrible at aiming or are blind. Because of being able to fire one shot only, this gun is only useful when preying on a single target, which can be easily avoided by sticking to people. All guns require a degree of skill to be able to use them effectively. Some do not require as much as others, e.g. Honey Badger, M16, DB to be a powerful weapon. Some weapons need a lot of skill to be extremely powerful, the AK47 has an insane recoil but can be controlled. The HK SL8 needs you to be precise in your followup shots if you miss that vital headshot which I have problems with, but other players become beasts with this. DB is not overpowered. It simply removes the time required to kill someone by having a one shot kill capability on the body. However, what happens after you kill the person? 2nd Person? DNA? This weapon is no different from other weapons. It puts the time used to kill someone into DNA time. Other weapons require more shots and can be used at a distance, which means more time used to kill someone, but DNA stays there for a shorter time. Summary : DB isn't overpowered. It just has a easier learning curve to achieve that power people are hating so much. Weapons aren't OP, the user is.
It used to be OP. Due to it being able to fire twice with smaller spread, killing people across the map with a shotgun isn't very balanced. Weapons can be OP, however I do agree most of the time people complaining about a certain weapon is dependent on the skill of the player in question.
