Closing this thread if it keeps straying away from a discussion. If you guys want to actually civilly discuss ways to prevent this from happening, or how to make improvements, have at it. But if this just keeps becoming "who can take a bigger shit on each others head," its gonna get locked.
youve literally played and interacted with me on the servers within the past week multiples times lmao, also my b for caring about my friend getting falsely banned and him saying he's gonna leave bc of it projecting what? the fact that i dont mistakenly ban players and therefore contribute to a lack of trust between good players that make the server popular and staff? lol my bad you guys have shown a pattern over the years of handing out false hacking bans to good players which encourages them and their friends to not play on the server anymore. i know im retarded but im not that retarded never said i was leaving, said that having an incredible popular player (dolphy) that contributes to the re-population of dead servers leave would be a bad thing, especially since TTT and SGM are on the decline over the past few years. completely irrelevant? mhm yeah ok intolerance to you saying completely false and dumb shit like there aren't hacking bans on the ban list so you guys must be doing something right in regards to said hacking bans? yeah you got me there didnt affect me? dolphy is a good friend of mine and when your friends get falsely punished youd be mad too right? or do i just gotta give the person who punished them a free pass because they're "new," when he really isnt new you guys legit said that he doesnt have enough experience, so why was he in a position to do it? why is there not adequate training before hand to at least help staff members tell the difference between blatant hackers and people who are suspicious, and why is there not a clearly defined staff protocol that then says if a player is determined to be "suspicious" you give your evidence to certain designated people to determine that they are or arent hacking, instead of just chucking it into staff bunker? why did you guys not address anything about the fact that the ban was appreantly handed out before it was reviewed? just gotta give him a pass bc he's new? even though it can heavily damage the community's playerbase? right cool good to know good talk guys very good points here, nice irrelevant post that didnt address anything besides that yes, it was a mistake and the fact that im mad about this lmao
>5k Hours on Gmod >On 40mg of adderall >Top 500 in Overwatch >Extremely Handsome The possibility of him pulling down his mouse to avoid recoil is not a possibility within reason. Bro I am sure staff with under 1k hours on this game can make a reasonable decision if you're hacking on this game. Get a real fucking anti-cheat and 99% of this won't happen. The current anti-cheat to the best of my knowledge just does a concommand check to see if you're using popular hacks. If you had a real anti-cheat instead of a hex table check you can avoid having autistic staff banning people and then circle jerking in their staff bunker that they're sus. After playing & developing for this game for a decade I do not believe that 99% have the brain cells to tell if someone is hacking on their 2007 laptop that is overheating on their lap.
Could also just go to actually good players and ask them their opinion if youre not sure on wether or not someone is hacking. I do not think I have been wrong on someone who is cheating yet and I mostly just sus them off of how they kill me then spectate them. Good players can tell the difference between natural aim and hacks most of the time.
i just want to say, i can see where they were coming from with the ban to a degree , to someone who might not be very familiar with hacks that is, but shit talking them doesnt solve anything neither does this kind of thread, actually. often staff members will look to fellow staff if they are unsure but in some cases its safer to make the ban first just incase especially in cases where people are complaining, obviously not just ban because people say so but you know what i mean, then re-review the evidence or get other opinions, it usually tends to me elvis, myself, or the leads and admins that get asked of course the first issue will always be the method of evidence gathering, youtube is obviously prefferable followed by streamable i personally disagree with gyazo being used but a mans gota use what a mans gotta use its better than nothing also with hacking bans now being global on 1st offence even if the first precaution of checking with fellow staff isnt done or a weak ban slips through the gaps the admin who carries out the G&E would catch it when reviewing the evidence prior to banning at the end of the day mistakes happen it wasnt malicious and it got corrected, worst case scenario (in the case of a false hacking ban) the user gets banned for a short period of time, they go make an appeal the evidence is reviewed and they get unbanned and its voided dolphys ban was rectified very quickly as i suggested an immediate unban and an appology, maybe we could have some sort of protocol whereby hacking bans that arent obvious get run through a specific group of people deemed to be "experts" but then again i can see that causing issues and adding extra time whereby the suspected hacker has more time to run rampant. instead of talking about past events please do suggest some ideas, preferably sensible full formed ideas of how things could work, protocol, delivery methods ETC id like to bounce some ideas back and forth with some people
If we take into account other the rules of the server for example, we are supposed to play as though we don't have object permanence. Object permanence (this is for the mods) is the ability we gain at around eight months old to recognize that objects still exist outside of our view. If we expand the mental age of this rule to the entirety of rules, I can see how we think Mr. Dolphy is a hacker. It is expected of the average SGM TTT player to be about the equivalent of a preschooler. Mr. Dolphy is probably about the skill level of eighth grade. I know that is pretty guys, but I don't think its fair to ban him because he is an eighth grader. Also, I'm going to have to agree here, Dolphy you have been hacking too long and it is obvious because no one can be better than me. Everyone here saying it is a mistake is wrong because you are a hacker and I said it and they are scared of you. Good riddance eff u ! stop killing me first every round u bastard
Lmao okay look I had to get rid of the only guy that could beat me in a 1v1 mkay? The only thing I really have to defend here is gyazo because gyazo is great for gathering a fast snipet to ask an admin on their opinion instead of spending 30 mins rendering a video on youtube. pssst he was unbanned in 3mins .
Sorry to interrupt everybody, but the Lead Admins of the server have recently changed the Hacking rule in the extended rules. Spoiler Because of this new rule, the server will now become way less enjoyable for all of our players in Serious GMod, as a former cheater, this rule should make the servers more toxic and easier to have a fun and enjoyable time on SeriousGmod.com
Hacker don't happen often, and when they do 90% of the time they just mass RDM. It's very rare to see hackers legitimately playing the game.
ban for hacking, if they aren't hacking they most likely appeal it, post evidence and accept/deny appeal with group input - no point placing a ban hours later when an admin responds. Also it's not like "oh they're skilled they won't hack/oh they're just lagging and that helps ", if that was the case, we would've left charbro unbanned. You have to remember that not everyone is an expert at detecting what is legitimate or not
this is one of many things me and cowcakes will always be on the same wave length with when it comes to handling the servers
I think you underestimate just how many hackers get banned. Really depends on timing, but on a Friday/Saturday night it’s not uncommon to have 5+ hacking bans in a night. Obviously that’s on the high end, but you get my point. Personally if I think anything is borderline I’m always going to ask for a second opinion before banning but it is what it is.
Depends on the staff member doing the bans and how experienced they are. I'd say out of every 5 bans, 3 could be caught with 0 experience 3/5 or 60%
