Political Throwdown (part 3)

Nice to accept the idiocy accurately pointed out to match your views. Nothing made to convince anyone of anything, just making those making fucking asinine comments look fucking inept at comprehending context. Everything is always generalized. Nothing matters anymore when it comes to fact or fiction. As long as you believe it that's the real truth. Flat earthers revolve around these gamers.

 

Thats cool, still voting for Trump.

 

I mean, no country has a perfect system, that's true. But what you posted makes little to no sense.

First off, extrajudicial killings happen a bit more than "rarely" and they shouldn't happen AT ALL. Granted, it happens in many countries, not just the US.
But equating countries that don't openly allow these killings as soviet communism joseph stalin shit is an absurd strawman with little to no pertinence to the real situation. Every other country is not communist just because they have a different system.

 

this minnesota guy deserves a whole ass post about how terrible he is at equating things.

Yes, not all countries outside of the USA are bad. Their systems aren't all bad. At the same time, like Moth said, they're not perfect. Just like, oh no, blasphemy incoming, America's system is not perfect under a republican or democrat president. It's more functional when the two sides arent trying to cut each other's throats, but even then it's still not perfect. Especially not perfect under Trump as crazy as that may sound. Not every lefty is saying North Korea or China is amazing, I dont even know who among lefties are saying that. Obviously doesnt mean there aren't people saying that. Anyway.. What have you... unless they're all of a sudden an ally because Trump entered North Korea that one time. Who even knows at this point. Shunning other countries or cultures because "they're not american accepting" or whatever the fuck you think of other countries and how they're ran it's beyond ignorant (to make clear, not ranting at moth but anyone who thinks like this).

In any case here's that post for minnesota dude

"If you're not a Democrat you must be a Trump supporter"

Given how the parties have split so hard, it's assumed on both ends that if you're a democrat you'll forever hate trump or if you're republican you'll forever support trump. Firstly, crazy enough, until unless quite possibly so if the term limits are attacked if we near the end of 2 terms of Trump, he won't be around forever. So firstly, who fucking cares about Trump after that. Solely because not only does a standard democrat despise Trump, but because Trump alienates people into trying to prevent themselves in every way shape and form to not be a RINO's therefore no one will accept you as republican if you are against Trump because to be republican is to be a Trumper. As someone pointed out "Dont be like Mitt Romney." As simple as that when it comes to how people shame a side for who theyt support. Brought upon themselves. Now the thing is and this is where people start getting frustrated as Moth pointed out. Being openly political vs. not. This is where you find the actual muck of people from both ends. When you're not openly political wanna know something that means idiots will assume you are one side or the other, bash you if the assumed negatively, be coy about it if they assume positively. Best thing to do is, NOT ASSUME. Anyone saying "well it's just the left attacking people who dont wanna speak about politics, assuming they're Trump supporters" it goes both ways as it always has! If you're not openly supporting Trump, the Trump supporters will fucking rag you too. There's no end to it. No one is innocent. No one is better than the other.


"Very many leftists are not educated. Or very smart. They also hate cultures."

Leftists would say that about republicans. Obviously, you'd disagree wholeheartedly, call it an unsubstantiated generalization, and call this "typical of the triggered leftists." Just sounds like to me it's very much a "my side is superior in every way and the left can't see that because they're quite dumb" ordeal. Reminder about the caravan that's supposed to have been invading America what 2-3 years ago as the biggest drug gang invasion ever touted by Trump as a threat to America itself because apparently anyone seeking asylum from South America are all fucked in the head. This entire statement is hypocritical on both ends, again, as it has always been.


Lastly, one of the top 5 stupidest things to be said here. The picture comparison.

Would I rather live in a country where something that is literally being protested, experienced, described, literally etched in history for the last 4 years, described as "where this type of stuff happens rarely"

or

the USSR under Stalin

Essentially loading the question of "We have civil strife, but at least we're not a dictatorship killing millions of our own people. I think we're having it off pretty good because there's literally no other examples to pull from in modern day of what it would be like to experience life there." Like cool holy shit pitting "communist dictatorships" against "republican america" and being like "yea no im fine with what i got" NO SHIT. Who would ever fucking want a Stalin dictatorship no one is calling for America to be a Stalin dictatorship are you so lost in the sauce that you think Socialism is a Stalin dictatorship because you're gonna get taxed more for Socialist programs to try and LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD A BIT MORE, BUT NOT ENTIRELY? Not every socialist country is thriving just like not every democracy is thriving. Nothing is perfect it's about achieving something manageable that doesnt break more every 4 fucking years.

Jesus dude beyond fucked your poor wallet must have nightmares. Obligatory fuck roz

 

Guys I lied I won't vote trump

 

Why did u completely mislead the entire point?

 

Also you don't need to take a three word concept and turn it into 55 Jesus.

 

You gave clear enough statements. If me saying "both sides fucking suck, you're hypocritical the left and right are hypocritical, nothing is set in stone regarding government" blah blah blah is misleading points away from what you're trying to state them to be then yes Im entirely misleading your point.

or if it's because I tried to steer your contrast of mother fucking Stalin Russia away from current republican america because they're not apt things to contrast as "i think we're better off now vs. anything else we try" to try and create a more modern comparison and not one that has been clearly ignored and fucked off with 99% of the world then yea i'll mislead that too.

Also sorry for giving serious responses to your 3 little words or whatever. Maybe I'll just act like the little trolls in here and only respond with

"That's cool, still voting Biden."

 

I'm struggling to find where I asked

 

Here I helped you find where you did ask. You, in the form of a question regarding, how I made my response to your bullshit how I did. In which case, I responded with what I did here

Hope that helps. So that's cool, still voting Biden.

 

Your entire thesis has over 6,000 characters.

 

Is it too much reading for you? Should I quote another thing you said about intelligence issues on one side or can you fucking suck it up or possibly shut up about these issues if you're not gonna respond to them because too many CHARACTERS. Yet still have the gall to say such statements without anyone being able to contest them because "damn bro you type alot, how's about you fuck off"

 

No, you could specify it. Cause honestly in your sentences I can get several ways to interpret just one of your sentences

 

@Robokiller87 conjure 100 more holocrons, an arsenal of super weapons, nothing will stop me from voting Trump.

 

Your point: The point I'm making is most leftists view other countries outside the US ( Especially the US's enemies ) as "great havens of peace and joy"

Refuting point: No country is perfect. Most leftists DONT view the US's enemies as havens of peace and joy. Just like not all republicans do either. Not every system outside of the US is fucked especially when considering the first part of your statement "most leftists view other countries outside the US---as great havens of peace and joy." Nothing is perfect. America especially isn't. There's countries that function better than America out there in various aspects. Go figure sorry to shatter the illusion.


Your point: "If you're not a Democrat you must be a Trump supporter"

Refuting: Trump requires trust from prominent republicans, or else RINO. This has seeped into American discourse regarding party allegiance, clearly, as Left hates Trump. Right is being expected to stick with Trump. This has been something perpetuated by Trump to exist in political discourse. Issue is when people assume. Due to how this view has again seeped into America, those who are apolitical or not openly political to be something they aren't that's where you get the fucked up individuals who assume someone is a Trumper or not or whatever. As I said, this was brought upon yourselves.


Point: "Very many leftists are not educated. Or very smart. They also hate cultures."

Refuting: Both sides hate people, just depends where you look. They're smart. Dumb. Hypocrites. No one is better than the other. Stop acting like it's the left who are only that. Fuck both your sides.


Point: America is better than Stalin's Russia

Refuting: Who the fuck cares no one is saying it isn't. Tell me why you think America is better than any modern system outside of America that isn't a fucking dictatorship that also happened to be communist. I can fucking do the same with Hitler's germany the fascist dictatorship and that shit proves fucking nothing. Everyone already knows this America is better than either. That contrast is a clear shot at the left, likely socialism, to show "yea the communist left fucking murdered everyone. republicans gotta deal with a few boo boos here and there and we'll push through" as yall so clearly have coming up on 4 years now.

Hopefully this is a little more digestible, less CHARACTERS for you to handle. I called everything stupid again as I did before just with less examples.

 

Thats cool, still voting for Netanyahu.

 

I have never met a leftist who says they love America, or would rather not move out of America. No country is perfect, but we are among the first if not the first country founded on the belief of freedom, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. One of the few that has a combination of laws that allow anyone to be successful, and therefore "pursue happiness".

lmao People here assume I support Trump because I "lean right". Even that media thing that Roz posted a little earlier with the internet "assuming" Chris was a republican. People with a... lack of a better term... UnEdUcAtIoN ... tend to assume those things.

Both sides hate people true. But I don't often here about Republicans tearing down statues or vandalizing McDonald's when hating.

That point was because of this
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/co...cans-doral-ukraine-dictatorship-20191020.html
Notice the lying ?
USA isn't perfect, but it's more perfect than any other country. Our ideals are what make us great. Loving this country isn't a requirement for living here. But respecting this country like you would respect your mother would certainly be a great first step.
I respect your decision to disagree with me on most maybe all of this. But respecting decisions is who we are. We won't fight with guns over some little issue. In the first amendment "Right to freedom of speech"; I respect your belief, but I also respect that your belief is wrong.

 

So I'll make the clear distinction here. Hard left, the 'non-American' left, those Americans who do not align with the typical American democrats will yes I will agree be more apprehensive towards current America rightfully so. Meet a normal American democrat, they won't say that. Those who are more left rightfully are more apprehensive as they're less recognized in America by even their 'party affiliation' and therefore have more issues with America than the average American democrat. The American democrats do not represent the left as they represent more towards the center political affiliation, blah blah blah, the American left is more conservative or centered in other countries.

Anyway, if the distinction is the actual hard left hates America that is flat out wrong. Apprehensive is a better term to use as they're underrepresented and often misaligned by American democrats. There is a reason why many people do try to find ways to immigrate to America. It is a higher quality of life than a decent chunk of the world. As you've pointed out. This isn't specifically due to republicans or even democrats. It's the foundation for how the country functions. Neither side should take any credit for that and if they do fuck them. Both work towards attempting to achieve better forms of these foundations or at least should.

As much as I hate Trump I worst I did towards you was degrade the way you equate things as they're vastly generalized to be spoken as truth. So again, when we're talking about people assuming others of things like this, so in your case, lean right therefore Trump when you might not, I will direct you to what Trump has done to amplify this behavior and why it happened with you assuming you don't support Trump or fucking Chris Pratt.

So it should all be expected that if you do lean right or left to have receive this reaction from your opposing party members. No surprises it's what America is nowadays. This wasn't brought on by the left either as much as one side would like to say. Mitt Romney was thrown under the bus for this way of thinking despite him essentially being still a mother fucking republican flip flopper like he has always been.

Republicans lashed out under Obama too. They had their election night riots. Birtherism arguments. Racist rhetoric. What have you. The thing that makes this a very left issue with acting out right now is because they've very directed towards a central figure whereas the right has no central figure to direct anger towards whatever anger they may have. Kind of split with Pelosi, Schumer, Antifa, or I suppose Biden for the time being. Both sides participate in being complete idiots depending on who is president from what party. It's the left's turn to look like fucking idiots because they have the lightning rod to direct it at.


Lastly this article and why you posted your pictures. Will Bunch, some obvious nutjob from the Philadelphia Inquirer is the basis for creating a stark contrast between a now dead government that committed numerous atrocities vs. a very chaotic one isnt doing those same atrocities and pick "which is better"

Like come on. I really dont care for this at all. Easy enough, USSR fucking bombed and sucked ass whoopdiedoo. Will Bunch calling America a dictatorship now likely depends on what I said much earlier, if Trump actually removes term limits for the President. It is a prevalent thought for the democrats because he joked about it just like it was for republicans because Obama did that too. Creating an article based on hyperbole to rally support and anger against "grrr trump is trying to flex his muscles again fuck him" and call him a dictator. There's an obvious reason for the article, but it's obvious in its intent rather than the message.

USA isnt perfect and it's only perfect for those who meet their expectations. Based on that not everyone will agree that the USA is more perfect than anyone else and as you said "agree to disagree" in which case it's also one of the best and worst things about America. You're free to be as stupid or as educated as you want to be, but as long as your beliefs aren't trampled on then your truths are solidified and undeterrable no matter what they are.

 

i voted for your mother
swag

 

OK that's just false, they're letting riots and rampaging destruction happen. They're not supporting anything that will help Americans. Both sides should, but they almost never do, they vote under their own agendas. Which is a problem with you want progress. I don't assume you support anyone period, but just about everyone will assume you support this one person if you support this party's ideals.

I was pretty young during Obama's term and reelection but I don't remember mass riots and wide spread destruction. And "staining the legitimacy of the nobel peace prize".

Honestly I'm at a loss for words reading this
Those sentences are very absurd