Invalid Report against †☆LT.Kitty-Kat☆†

Discussion in 'TTT Staff/Player Reports' started by Ahalan, Jul 24, 2020.

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  1. Ahalan

    Ahalan Costa este, mejor costa. VIP

    Name of Staff/Player:
    †☆LT.Kitty-Kat☆†
    Steam ID of Staff/Player:
    STEAM_0:1:63149268
    Your Steam ID:
    STEAM_0:0:82789995
    Which Server:
    Vanilla
    Which Map:
    Innocent Motel
    Which Round:
    No Idea
    Time of Occurence:
    Near 3pm EDT I believe
    Reason For Report:
    I wanted some clarification about a situation I had earlier today on Vanilla 1, on innocent motel.

    Kitty blocked me into a room with only one entrance in and out. I, a detective, warned her twice to move, and she responded by shaking her head and stating that I couldn't kill her for blocking unless a c4 or incendiary were there. I threw down an incendiary and killed her, only to be reported and slain for a "toxic kill" by RyanHighman.

    In the extended rules, the only outline on warning says:
    1. You must warn if you're about to use an item, usually explosive or traps, that may cause damage to your teammates
    *A useful rule of thumb for timing is giving at least five seconds before warning and initiating action*
    Both of my warnings we're well over 5 seconds before throwing the grenade, and my intent to kill if she didn't move was clear.

    There is nothing in the extended rules about how many times I need to warn, or that I need to be in danger to c4 or other things to kill for blocking.

    Also, from the harassment section of the extended rules:
    - Prop blocking or blocking in general (if it is intentional).
    There's no way to look at this other than intentional

    And, from the Toxic Gameplay section:
    1. Toxic Gameplay is playing the game how it's not meant to be played; ruining the fairness and enjoyment
    I logged off the server the next map because I couldn't enjoy the game with what I thought to be an unfair slay on my mind.
    Also, Kitty knows that the game "isn't meant to be played" standing still and holding up her own teammate (she was inno), she's been here longer than me after all.

    The only solution the mod gave me was that I should've used !stuck, however I've had mods refuse to unstuck before, in situations where players aren't "actually stuck", such as being locked in the prison cells or enchant room on Jondome, so that also needs to be clarified. This situation was so similar to those that the idea didn't even cross my mind.

    I understand why I was slain, it was RDM. However, I don't feel that Kitty should get off scot-free when she was trying to provoke a reaction from the start, or that my actions should get called toxic when it was the opposite.​
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  2. RyanHymenman

    RyanHymenman Conscript the women and kids Administrator VIP Silver

    I’ll handle this when i get home
     
  3. RyanHymenman

    RyanHymenman Conscript the women and kids Administrator VIP Silver

    Also just gonna put this in here concerning the rules regarding killing players while they are blocking

    Link
     
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  4. RyanHymenman

    RyanHymenman Conscript the women and kids Administrator VIP Silver

    https://streamable.com/90sbv5
    Here is the deathscene that shows you throwing the incend down to be in danger to kill kitty. As you can see in the motd I posted, you can use !stuck or tell a staff member you are being trapped.

    I don't see a reason for Kitty to be blocking you. Ill wait for her to reply
    @LT.Kitty-Kat
     
  5. KatxWind

    KatxWind VIP

    There was a reason why he was slain and you can check logs on this.

    I was blocking the door, he warned me to move. I said no by shaking my head (At this time I didn't use my mic because I was asleep).
    If you check logs I told him after he said he'll shoot me when he count to three was ''You can only warn me for door blocking if there's an incen or a c4''

    He immediately drops the incen and shot me right away without warning.

    I reported him telling him ''You have to warn me after throwing the incen'' because that's loopholing, he's the one that threw the incen and it's not blocking his way, he can simply walk backward away from the flames but here's the thing.

    He shot me before he even goes off, he dropped it immediately and rdmed me right away. I reported him and his respond was saying I was 'Loopholing' which is fucking stupid because I was telling him how warning works. Then Cyder I think took the report, passed it to Ryan who read it and gave you a slay.

    The problem is that you threw the incen and shot me right away before warning me that you were gonna throw an incen, you just threw it right away so that's why you were slain. I was a bit pissed off when you told me that I was loopholeing which killed my brain cells because how is me telling you how the rules work loopholing? You were slain for Toxic Kill

    I don't even know why you're reporting me there, I just reported you and said what happen and you were slain for it lol
     
  6. KatxWind

    KatxWind VIP

    Legit you were in the room for what 30 seconds? I always fuck around with people and leave after a bit but you're the one who got triggered for being blocked and cried in ooc saying I blocked you through out the whole game.

    The only reason why you're reporting me because after you rdm me a T came in and killed you right away lol. It's not against the rules to block unless it's using props/propkill/propdamage or if someone is in danger. I done nothing wrong.
     
  7. Ahalan

    Ahalan Costa este, mejor costa. VIP

    Ok so reading what Ryan linked, I'm in the wrong. I was pissed off yesterday and there was no reason for me to make this report, it isn't a big deal and kitty really didn't do anything wrong. I'm sorry about this cause I completely overreacted.
     
  8. RyanHymenman

    RyanHymenman Conscript the women and kids Administrator VIP Silver

    Glad we came to an understanding. With that I’ll be closing this report.
    Report: Invalid
    Thread: Closed
     
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