Rejected Revert the Rule Allowing the Use of Slurs

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Python~, Aug 25, 2019.

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Revert the rule?

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  1. No I don't think they will
     
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  2. CorallocinB

    CorallocinB Animeme lord VIP Silver Emerald

    Exactly in a perfect world where we don't have complete fucking idiots we can all have very nice fragile pretty things. Not many cases especially in Highwon's world of SGM.

    You lose me here. Your best example you gave was when people need to throw it into a reportable scenario context. The other example that you gave still has no better solution than just substituting out the actual word for the n-word or really any other slur for that matter. If anyone has half a brain which I suspect a certain someone (not you) may not have people can understand censored words when they're used and also understand that when some idiot is just saying a word because they've been given the gold pass by Highwon they're not saying it at all with good intentions like ever. If there's some quizzical child minds who come across this ever so prestigious server wanting to discuss the perplexities, diction, and history of said words there's nothing stopping anyone from censoring themselves however there's a lot of green lights to take their dumb shit discussion off the rails into the nearest crowd.
     
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  3. Togo ✿

    Togo ✿ Nobody Gets it VIP Silver

    gamers are going game i guess
     
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  4. Bubonic

    Bubonic Burning heretics since M31 VIP

    The only discussion I can see these words being used in with good reason are threads like this. What other situations could the words be used with good reason? Why is SGM an appropriate place to even have a philosophical discussion on slurs in the first place?

    I don't think this change would be significantly different from a no slurs rule so why not go all the way in? This would only allow slurs on servers where the mod doesn't care about it, and then essentially ban it on servers where the mods do give a shit.

    The only way I could agree to it being at the mods discretion is if players, even those who it is not directed at, can complain they are offended and immediately get it shut down even if the mod thinks it is okay.
     
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  5. Pacifist

    Pacifist Cynically Insane VIP Bronze

    I'd like to point out that most moderators would enforce the slurs rule very strictly. I see that you got my point though, there are very few instances where it would be okay. That means that it is mostly not okay, and you would still have the old rules. I'm just trying to find a solution here that doesn't involve instant action for just saying the word, as that is what was at issue with the previous rule, as far as the big man was concerned.
     
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  6. Bubonic

    Bubonic Burning heretics since M31 VIP

    I think this is the best solution taking Highwon's firm position on the matter into account. It's not perfect but it's significantly better than where we are now and is as close to what we really want as possible.
     
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  7. Pokeben10

    Pokeben10 tell me pretty lies Moderator VIP Silver

    At the end of the day, what Highwon says is final but I appreciate you taking the time to listen to what we as a community have to say. That's an important characteristic of a good server (y).
     
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  8. Sticky Bandit

    Sticky Bandit Never fall below your standard VIP Bronze

    Yeah I like Paci's approach. I personally never (well, except for that one ban appeal I had because I'm a dumbass) enforced contextual use of racial slurs during my tenure, despite the fact it was technically against the rules. It just never made sense to me, and would have been stupid to do so... So I didn't.

    I also never really cared when a couple friends would call each faggot jokingly. Like, it didn't hurt anyone, but I still had to warn them and stuff.

    I'm really OK with the rule the way it is on paper - but if people are really just spamming nigger and shit still, long after this rule change, then a compromise might have to made.

    And y'all better quit throwing shade at Paci, he has like 0 say over what Highwon does.
     
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  9. MemeDaddy

    MemeDaddy VIP

    I like the rule the way it is now.
     
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  10. tz-

    tz- feelin it VIP Emerald

    gee i wonder why
     
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  11. Silent Rebel

    Silent Rebel Lead Shitposter VIP

    pacis idea is alright as long as saying nigger randomly by itself is not considered "ok" usage. Shit's so annoying when the servers all quiet and then one scruffy white kid is just like "HGHNNNNNNGGGGGH NIGGGGGGGGGGGERRRRRRRRRR" over the mic
     
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  12. Muffin

    Muffin Fresh Baked VIP

    LOL what in the actual fuck has become of this place jesus
     
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  13. Sinz

    Sinz crumble VIP Silver

    i feel like i see one of these posts every couple of weeks.

    bad sign.
     
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  14. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    I would like to clarify my suggestion:

    I love free speech, but I still see the limitations that are needed for it. Even irl in most cases, yelling nigger in a public space could be deemed as "disturbing the peace," if not get your brains bashed in. It could land you in severe trouble in the real world, legally or otherwise.
    I don't understand what there is to gain from this change. Being a "proponent of free speech" is not an excuse.
    "Oh they only said it once, what's the harm?" Why the fuck are they saying it at all? Why do they need to be able to say it? Even if they don't know the rules, it's common sense.
    Nobody gains anything positive from this.
     
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  15. Noccam :^)

    Noccam :^) Regular Member

    How about we just set this community on fire
     
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  16. Grumble

    Grumble Banned VIP

    Imagine being upset about sounds that come out of peoples mouth.
     
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  17. Peter

    Peter VIP

    based

    one time in high school, my teacher called me a guinea cause I was wearing a button-down shirt with the top 2 buttons undone, and of course i am italian

    did i whine and pout and act triggered like a faggot baby bitch? no, i laughed

    highwon's rule change was for the better, in the end if someone is spamming or harassing then they can still get punished regardless
     
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  18. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    imagine being called a niche italian slur and comparing that to nigger

    regardless, just because you don't get offended, doesn't negate how other people feel about it.

    "yeah i don't really like that nigger word"
    "yeah buh i was called a guinea pig once in highschool"
    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Peter

    Peter VIP

    "plz punish him he say a word"

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    u claim to be from new york and its a "niche slur" LOL
     
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  20. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    I guarantee you if that teacher called you a nigger, he wouldn't be teaching anymore.

    Jesus christ I'm losing braincells listening to your reasoning.

    yeah, I claim to be a female too, but i'm not. surprise!
     
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