Couple of these things are kind of off a little. -First, Trump is definitely linked to Russia, but probably not in a way that may be illegal for him. For instance, trump tower Moscow probably put him in the way of some big time Russian dudes. Regardless, the Muller investigation was not for nothing. Indictments were made against top campaign officials for either lying to congress or colluding with Russia. Trump may have known all about it, or known nothing, but that doesn't really matter in this case. I'm happy he did his investigation and found nothing. -Communism is not inherently authoritarian. The problem is that the overarching system in which communism is positioned, Socialism, is a broad school of thought. Like Capitalism, people disagree on how best to go about implementing it. That being said, many of the revolutionaries who took over in the name of Marx were violent authoritarian dictators who put their own perverse spin on what socialism should look like. I would rather you say that communism is flawed then say that it can't work, because it could given the right circumstances. -And you realize that the polarization of the political parties has happened on both sides correct? In fact, the Republicans have become more and more extreme as time has gone on. They've gone from a respectable party to an outright shit show. I blame the Tea Party movement. Regardless of that, the same things happen on the other side. They call centrist republicans "RINO" (Republican In Name Only). How did this happen? Trump. Trump has caused this divide and fostered frustration on both sides. Will he win a second term? Probably. Democrats just don't fucking vote. They'll see Trump is down in the polls and just assume he wont win, and that voting is not important. It will be a close race though. All we need is a competent democratic candidate, someone like Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden. The Republicans wouldn't be able to compete with Bernie's popular ideas or Joe Biden's super popularity.
I didn't say communism is inherently authoritarian, even though imo AnComs don't make any sense, it's just kind of 2 points that collided. I do realize polarization on both parties is happening for quite a while now, but I don't care enough for the Republicans. I would rather their party not be unified enough to elect someone competent and the democrats elect someone who is a center-left type of person. But yeah I also forgot to mention that right wing youtube channels/news outlets (rebel media, turning point usa...) are clowns no less than the cancer partisan leftist media outlets (vox, huffpo...)
Just for this, I think 8values.github.io is much more specific on what you are. Here is both of mine. Spoiler: 8values Spoiler: Political compass So even though I am centrist on both kinda, I'm much more right winged in practice.
In latest news, Clinton colluded with the Ukrainians, who attempted to influence the elections in her favor. Everyone in the government is dirty as fuck; but the left is just as bad as the right. They are doing the same shit that the right allegedly did; only with hard evidence to incriminate them. + New Zealand is using the recent shooting to completely push forward with censorship and anti-gun laws, and have crippled democracy in record time within the island nation. This shits no joke anymore, the left has become a fringe faction of regression and puritanism. They need to be stopped before they gain any more traction. all I know is; if these government pigs try to take my guns it's gonna be a mass rdm
Stop fear mongering. First, Hillary Clinton didn't win, but i'm happy they got her. That women needs to go to prison. Secondly, they aren't limiting freedom in New Zealand. You have to understand that gun control is actually something most people in New Zealand agree with. In fact, both parties supported gun control bills in the past. They have collectively decided that guns are no bueno.
"Fear mongering" Listen, just because someone fails to do something doesn't excuse them for trying it. Clinton needs jailtime for her crimes. "Most people in NZ agree with gun control", except the majority of their minorities, including the Maori, all support pro gun laws. but, fuck em! theyre just trespassing on the white mans land am i right
Its not a democracy. That's my point, they've given total power to their shitty, left-wing government because of a tragedy. They're literally doing what the shooter fucking wanted, they're GIVING him his goal, he ASKED them to do this and they're like "Oh yeah, we're retard liberals, let's do exactly what the terrorist wants and act like we're doing it for a good cause" Liberals are fucking weak, and they're proving to the world that they're ready and willing to bend the knee.
Then I will just go rule russia, remake the USSR, team up with him, get betrayed, and go straight for berlin. Nice thinking. And yes, I agree that Trump is linked to Russia....and that trump is effectively insane. I mean, why would you fire your own FBI Director for having an investigation on you?Seems pretty much like something a dictator would do. I wonder if he is Putin's brother.
And you both need to stop ruining this awesome thread. Seriously, please comment with actual good opinions about the current regimes.
I've shared a lot of opinions already and given in-depth essay'ish responses. A few memes keeps the thread active and usually leads to fruitful discussions as people make jokes about stuff. Like, the gay jokes could spawn debates about gay rights, e.g. marriage in church. Which I think is not really a cool thing to force. Either way, one party is gonna be discriminated. And tolerance needs to be a two way street. It's okay for people to think being gay is wrong. It's okay for people to be gay and express that. Gay people should absolutely be allowed a full and complete marriage in the eyes of the law. I don't see the need to have it in a church, it just seems engineered as a fuck you to Christian people. If a Christian community/Church is fine with marrying gay people, cool. If they're not, I think that's also cool.
Marriage should be something that the gays have total access too, but I would never force a church to marry gay people. In the same way I would never force a baker to serve a cake to a gay person. While I would never force someone to do that, I would criticize them horribly. People who worship the good book fail to realize that it doesn't just go after gay people. It also decries shellfish and multi-threaded clothing, yet the church is happy to marry anyone but the gays. In all practicality, Christianity has evolved with the times and certain traditions have fallen out of favor as they are realistically not practice able. The blind hatred towards the gays is irrational at this point. One thing I've never liked about the good book is how much it praises friendliness and non-judgement while holding its index for a bunch of people you don't like, and a bunch of things you can't do.
I think that's a good guiding principle. We do not have to agree on everything. Nor should we. That'd be a horrible world to live in. 7.53 billion Pacifists? We'd be completely and utterly fucked. People will always be bigoted and prejudice is absolutely something we should rail against it. A lot of prejudice is born out of irrationality and ignorance; fear of the unknown, fear of something we don't understand.. or a book saying it is so. The best approach in that case is to spread information and talking openly. I don't think we will ever reach the idyllic peaceful society where there is perfect harmony, but we do need to be able to coexist. In the case of gay people, my approach as the big gay is to tolerate the people who think being gay is wrong. I'll discuss it with them openly if they want to.
