Please can we have a nerf for the vanilla shotgun as its way overdue. The shotgun is simply to easy for what it is and the amount of them on each map, may i suggest a damage reduction of 15-25% as this would require a bit more skill to kill someone rather than just 1-2 shotting people most of the time in the body with little aim required.
i 100% back this and yh general bal is kinda needed also its annoying that a close range weapon ca kill you at mid to far range when your using a scout trying to kil someone needs a super nerf
niggas dont deserve 85% of the kills they get with the shotgun tbh, u dont even need to aim for shit with that blaster needs a huge nerf
Its likely not gonna happen. It does need it really bad, since its a true virgin weapon, but due to the fact that the server will be shutting down.....no nerfs will happen anymore i pressume.
Last time we had a balance update to Vanilla it ruined the game. By the grace of god we got a role back, so lets not go through that mess again. If you want to nerf the shotgun, then reduce the range and or increase the spread. It is annoying getting one shot from a distance you have no way of reacting to. One shots should only be possible at extreme close ranges.
I agree on the idea of a general nerf but i disagree on the nerf you're suggesting I'd say the problem lies in the range, the red screen you get after being hit and the 1 hit potential Reduce damage over range Reduce the red mist you get on your screen after being hit by this bitch and the knockback isnt too much of a problem if the damage over range isnt so fucking op I dont know the exact values of what would be needed to nerf it but i'd say just try a damage reduction of 50% after you are say over 200 units away or smthn then after 550 units just remove damage completely. Its a shotgun not a sniper (I dont know the exact size of a "unit" so this may be off alot lol) The red mist which makes you not be able to fucking see needs to go completely im not sure if its possible to remove so easily but please get rid of it if you can if not then remove the ability to headshot with the shotgun. This is what causes the red mist The shotgun damage values are high enough anyway headshots arent needed with the weapon as it is for the less skilled players and body shot damage is through the roof. However removing red mist and decreasing damage over range and ability to 1 shot is a better idea imo. The ability to 1 shot is obviously stupid. A game where you arent allowed to kill on suspicion should not have 1 hit shotguns. you can just be roaming then out the door bam there is a man with a shotgun u cant do shit he just follows u and waits and then shoots and 1 hits you its ridiculous or u just turn a corner and you're dead to 0 skill i hate it and so does everyone else. The p90 needs a bit of an accuracy nerf too maybye just add some recoil on that bitch and you good.
So many people have requested the Nerf, but no matter how many try, the nerf never happens. Besides, learn how to play like a pro with awp/sniper rifle/deagle and you wont need the shotgun nerf. Just ask the pros themselves @Voca @Lordyhgm™ @pekka26
LMAO okay ill just one shot of a man who followed me round the entire game only for me to look away whilst i shoot someone who is shooting me so i can shoot him and then get my back blown off in 1 hit by a guy who has been playing for 2 mins total? Ill just 1 shot a guy who headshot me from 60 miles away and made my whole screen red and did 80 damage and before it goes away he can already shoot because the rate of fire is busted too Ill just 1 shot a guy because of my lightning fast reflexes that proved to be 0 damage not because i missed on this 1 off amazing shot i managed to hit right in this motherfuckers dome with a flick that was mostly luck but because of the fact that headshots have a 25% chance to actually do damage Ill just 1 shot him its okay because im a "pro" it'll only take me a year or two of playing constantly to get to that point anyway.
Nerf the shotgun because I need my AK to be the most OP thing. Come on, guys. That shotty is the only thing that keeps the AK balanced.
As much as I hate shotgon users for using a no skill required weapon, I dont find it neccesary to nerf it. Shotguns firerate makes it risky as much as rewarding, if you miss with a shotgun you are pretty much done for, if up against multiple people at the same time you wont be getting a chance to take down all of them. The shotgun is build for close range singular kills, so makes sense it has the damage it has. Also if we started modifying the weapons on vanilla, vanilla just wouldnt be vanilla anymore o.o
The fire rate is fast though? Way faster than needs to be if it was an actual pump shotgun then it would be balanced in the way u suggest but rn it shoots like 2 in the time of 1 rifle shot which is bs make the fire rate the same as the awp then its all gucci tbh
The ak got a nerf which does need to come back I agree but just make the m16 automatic. That way new players have access to an assault rifle the same way donors do and it'll be able to go against the ak and p90 Also I mean make the m16 automatic along with the ak nerf
