Approved jshore's Appeal

Your In Game Nickname:

jshore​

Your Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:116941947​

Which Server:

West​

Why you should be unbanned:

I really fail to see why I have been banned for toxic gameplay. I am going to assume that it was for shooting AFKs when they were GBA/not iding bodies. I know I have a recent loophole ban but after that situation I really tried hard not to loophole again. I would like to see the situation(s) as to why I was banned.​

Evidence of Innocence:

​

 

You got banned by @luna♥

 

@ptownslayer21 has the evidence for this. I'll respond when she posts that.

 

I have seen this and will handle this in a bit thanks! You were in fact banned for toxic gameplay. Also gonna tag @luna♥ so she knows this exists

 

Hey there thanks for appealing today... Let's get down to business!

So here is the report that was filed against you...

Spoiler: Report

Now I do have a question for you as shown in the logs below you killed Rellikporpaton and I really want to know why you started to kill him because that's the reason why this report even came about.

When I watched the ds as shown here...

Spoiler: Death Scene

It seemed a bit weird that you started to kill someone and then you ided the body and then killed the victim shown in the report. I went to @luna♥ and I talked to @Husky about your previous loopholing ban and this was less than a month ago. You continued and continued to kill AFK's for any reason possible whilst I was on the server today and @TrinityBlade is a witness. But this final kill was taking it a bit far. I talked with luna and after a bit of discussion we decided that it was in fact toxic gameplay. You started the fight and knew he was AFK and ided the body and waited 2 seconds after iding to kill the victim. That is why I considered reaching an admin about this report.

 

Huh, so odd that an important detail was left out as Rellikporpaton crowbarred the other AFK in the room. This was the reason I killed him as he was currently damaging a player. When I killed Rellikporpaton he died right infront of u eat da poopoo, so I killed him as he did not go and try and ID the body. I dont really see why me IDing the body first makes a difference as either way he still did not go and try to ID the body.

 

The issue wasn't killing Rellikporpaton. While yes, you are allowed to kill afks for not iding bodies, it's pretty toxic to kill someone in front of an afk, then kill them for not iding the body. Given that you just got a ban for loopholing reduced by Husky, I don't really see a reason to accept this, so why should I?

 

Why should it matter if I killed him in front of him or not? If he saw me as a threat he would have shot me, if he didn't he would have gone to the dead body and ID it. Also, wouldnt u eat da poopoo be GBA as well, as Rellikporpaton was damaging an AFK and he did not do anything?

 

It's the same idea as killing someone and putting the unided body in front of an afk. You put him in a situation where he could be killed for a t act, then killed him for it knowing he probably wouldn't have done anything about it because he was afk. The difference between this and killing an afk you come across next to an unided is that in the second situation you don't know where the body came from and what the afk had to do with the kill. As for gba, you've said so yourself twice now, that you killed him for not iding the body, not gba. You only really added gba after you got banned for it.

 

You are acting like I started the whole situation at hand when I indeed didn't. Rellikporpaton started the whole situation by crowbarring the other AFK in the room. I didn't push the AFK into the situation, I didn't plant the body next to him to kill him in this situation. He did not move and he stayed in the place he was. He actively put himself in the situation by being AFK and being a bystander by not IDing the body, not shooting Rellikporpaton, and by not shooting me actively makes him doing a traitorous act. How is it in any realm my fault that the player did not play the game/walked away from the game?

To keep me banned just because I did not say GBA in the first place is ridiculous, especially since that is a reason to kill for and another reason as to why I killed him. I am merely adding on to why I killed him and it's for a legit reason. I don't always put all the reasons for killing a player when responding/reporting. Just because I didn't say it first doesn't make him being GBA void. I like these servers, I don't loophole on purpose especially after the 2 week ban I got.

 

Alright jshore. I've put some thought into this and talked it over with a couple others. The very first thing I'll say is the ban length I decided for this is definitely too harsh, and it won't remain at the current length.

Now for the rest of it. I can see gba being a valid reason here. If you had said gba and I was handling the report, I'd have probably just marked it invalid and moved on.

That said, three weeks ago you were banned for abusing the unided rule as a detective. Husky showed leniency by halving the ban length. Fast forward six days, you got karma banned from killing more afks for unided bodies. Then, there was this. While this one incident I would normally have just given a slay for, given the other two recent bans I decided to do this instead. In hindsight, gba seems pretty obvious given the crowbar hit. But keep in mind that we as staff members don't need to dig for more information to validate your kill if you give us a reason and that reason doesn't work. I didn't look for a random crowbar hit earlier in the round, just looked at what was right in front of me and decided that killing him for gba when you shot first, or killing him for not iding the body when you were the one who killed Rellikporpaton in the first place, and knew the afk had nothing to do with your kill, was pretty toxic.

In light of that, I'll be unbanning you. I think it'd be really petty of me to keep you banned because of something obvious that you didn't put in your response. However I think you really need to be more careful in game. The karma system, as well as toxic gameplay bans exist for the same reason. Just because you are justified in killing someone, doesn't always mean you should. Given all your recent bans and warnings, even minor ones for mic spam and prop surfing, you should be taking a more cautious approach to playing. That includes giving full reasoning when responding to a report, to avoid situations like this.