Rejected remove death station heal

Discussion in 'Weapons' started by nigel benn, Dec 20, 2017.

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  1. Graze

    Graze Zzz... VIP Silver

    I actually support this. I’ve always said DS heal was overpowered and I totally agree. Shame this was a troll suggestion.
     
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  2. nigel benn

    nigel benn VIP Silver

    why does everyone think my suggestions are troll suggestions
    this was a serious suggestion
     
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  3. Maybe it's your -
    1. History
    2. Way of typing
    3. Way of conduct around the forums
    4. Your trollish behaviour
    :)
     
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  4. -tyler

    -tyler My trial was filed as a crazy suicidal head case. VIP Bronze

    There is a reason that no one ever made a suggestion like this by the way..
    At least put some reasoning to why you want it removed, besides "it's dumb" and "you need the detective to trust you"
     
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  5. Ashes Relandi

    Ashes Relandi ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Weeb Admin of TTT Administrator VIP Silver

    I actually don't see the issue with the DS heal.

    Sure it's a bit OP but you can only heal by spamming it alot and it's only 5HP per what 1.5 seconds?

    If you really want to nerf the Deathstation heal, I would say lower the maximum heal amount.

    I think regular health stations default cap at 200HP? (Someone correct me here).
    Maybe drop the cap to like half of the default so you can only use it for emergencies.

    Also iirc, they don't stack with current health station upgrades.
     
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  6. Graze

    Graze Zzz... VIP Silver

    I think part of good traitoring is finding a detectives health station or convincing them to drop one. DSheal is just a lazy huge point shop purchase limited upgrade that takes away from good traitoring. The fact that only dedicated players can use it’s overwhelming power is also kinda BS.
     
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  7. FaeThorn

    FaeThorn Be friendly, You can always change someones life VIP

    I some what agree with what you said.
    I agree with how expensive it is but i don't really find it OP.
    Sure it heals you but most people DS is not the first thing they buy and it does help i find it more of a challenge for innos witch i like about it.
    I am gonna remain neutral on this
     
  8. Han

    Han       VIP

    One of my biggest complaints of TTT in general, not just a SGM problem, is that rounds can just break down into TDM matches. I'll always see people on inno motel use the floor trap to shoot down the hallway then teleport away. Sure, it's a strategy, but it removes the whole sneaky theme of the game. The slow suspense as you try to figure out who the killer is. By adding stuff like death station healing and maps like inno motel, servers also encourage this type of gameplay. So yeah, I honestly wouldn't mind the deathstation heal being removed.

    That said? It's not going to happen. The majority of people and regular players prefer that TDM style so it makes sense servers will want to cater to it.
     
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  9. Chewie

    Chewie deadrun mod VIP Bronze

    uhmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM -1
     
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  10. Gonna be a +1 from me, the death station heal is just OP. It takes away a lot from the strategy and carefulness of being a traitor. People can just walk into a room and carelessly get into a gunfight, and then TP away to their death station to heal and repeat the process. Not to mention, like graze mentioned before, is that deceiving detectives into dropping a health station for you is also another part of being a traitor and makes for less mindless game play.
     
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  11. nigel benn

    nigel benn VIP Silver

    thanks for all the input :)
     
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  12. nigel benn

    nigel benn VIP Silver

    admins can lock this now
     
  13. See you in the next one (y)
     
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  14. Agent A

    Agent A Veni, vidi, vici VIP Silver Emerald

    Locked on request of OP.
     
  15. neutral

    neutral VIP

    I'm gonna reopen this. I'd like to hear other's opinions/ideas on this.
     
  16. Opalium

    Opalium Stay Awesome Banned VIP Silver

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  17. Machinekiller00

    Machinekiller00 I <3 Gunter VIP Silver

    (n)
     
  18. Cherious

    Cherious Regular Member

    I do both. I kill both non VIPs and those who have a donation rank (whether or not it was donated to them or they got it their own). This is coming from a person who does not have a VIP rank as well. It all comes down to the player's ability as a tratior (and hitreg). VIP doesn't mean shit if you can't kill honestly.

    In regards to getting the perk, those without a donation rank had to pay the full price (40000 points and the amount of non-premium who also have it is very scarce) whereas 98% of those who do have death station heal got it early because they had a premium rank before they bought it, roughly 30k with VIP and even lower with higher tier premium ranks.
    Why remove it out of the blue considering the hefty point cost for the perk? How can players be compensated for the removal of death station heal if this suggestion is added?
     
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  19. littlememe

    littlememe nothinglastsforever VIP Bronze

    Ur name looks fucking ugly tho
     
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  20. Agent A

    Agent A Veni, vidi, vici VIP Silver Emerald

    In a way, the deathstation can be used as a crutch.
    However, you can balance deathstation without removing it by nerfing the healing rate or how much it can heal.

    I think the biggest problem would be how would the removal be handled.
    There are a lot of people who have paid for the deathstation with their points.
    Some more recently, others months ago.
    If people are going to be refunded their points, the other people that lies is how much they paid for the deathstation heal because of the ranks can give different amount of points required to buy it.
    To expand on this point, people can buy it as supporter and then 3 months later, buy VIP, which the discount price would increase.

    I think it would be easier to nerf the deathstation to be less of a crutch for traitors rather than removing it and dealing with potential aftermath.

    Edit:
    Third alternative is a more dumb suggestion in my opinion, but it can be something to look at. That is to (greatly?) reduce the point cost for deathstation heals. That way, everybody can have it at cheaper price and get it much more quickly than before. That way, everybody can try and reap in that advantage instead of excluding the people who have stayed on the servers for long period of time to farm points or get lucky with points begging or lottery.
     
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