Invalid Report against Timo654

Name of Staff/Player:

Timo654​

Steam ID of Staff/Player:

U:1:112762864​

Your Steam ID:

U:1:82618041​

Which Server:

Vanilla​

Which Map:

ttt_minecraftmotel_b2​

Which Round:

2 rounds to map end​

Time of Occurence:

I belive around 21:40 (got banned so no !thetime)​

Reason For Report:

This nice moderator false slain me for 4 times, eventually banning me for "mass rdm 3x"

Since he slain me falsely for the 2nd time, for 2 rounds (even when I presumably rdm'd 1 person), I decided to put an end to this and record whatever's happening.

And guess what? I got a nice proof here, showing a traitor attacking me / shooting at me, me KOSin'g him and killing him, and getting slain for that.

I have no idea what's Timo654's excuse for this, but false slaying for 4 slays and banning me for mass RDM (it's not like I play here since yesterday)... that shouldn't go unpunished.​

Evidence And/Or Witnesses:

Conveniently, a YouTube video I uploaded showing the proof.dem in slowmotion. It can be viewed here.



Alternatively, the proof.dem can be downloaded here.​

 

I've seen this and I'll respond when I can.

 

I've also seen this and will await a response from my moderator.

 

Hey.

So, the first RDM you did was this:

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You claimed he killed the detective, however he did not even touch a detective, as seen in the logs.

Second RDM was this:

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You claimed he T-baited you, however he did not shoot, at least not until you fired a few bullets into his chest.

You also threatened me after I slayed you twice for that, as seen below:

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Third RDM, which you provided evidence for, was this:

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You claimed he shot you through the fire, however he never commited such an act. It was I, who shot you through the fire. However I was fast so I ran away before the fire could burn out.

After that, I banned you for Mass RDM (3x). You RDMed 3 times, so the ban was justified. If you'd read the rules, you'd see that you did indeed RDM and that those slays weren't false.

So yeah, read the rules and try not to RDM anymore. I'll leave the final verdict up to my admin @Super Halloween Graze.

Have a nice day!

 

If you shot me, why doesn't it say so in the logs? It does show your fire damage so obviously it shows the damage you done. But not that you hit me. Care to explain?


I saw the first Guy shoot and kill the detective, right in front of my eyes, with his shotgun.. That didn't show on the logs.

I also assume that shooting without hitting someone (as in T baiting) also doesn't appear in the logs. Clearely I don't see "player fired / shot weapon" here.

Your logs prove nothing. T baiting is easily evaded since you don't do the damage first, as it appears in the logs.

About the the killer of the detective, there must be some sort of error within the logs. He killed the detective, beyond any doubt.

Maybe I don't really rdm much. Maybe there's a bigger issue here and as a moderator, I expected of you to break it down and figure it out.

But since all you did is slaying me over and over, I honestly think that you're a bad moderator, which is why I want you to be relieved as you are hurting this community with your false judgment.

Either the logs don't work, or you don't do your job correctly. I'd like this matter to get sorted out.

As I said already, I play TTT for years, I spent good portion of that playtime in this specific server. I don't mass rdm. That's not how I play this game.

Edit: it says the TTT logs version is outdated. Could it be what's causing damage or shooting not to appear on the logs?

 

Hey.

I included the logs as a link, so you might've not noticed them.
The logs from the fire incident are here:

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The T bait can be seen below, you might've missed that too in the main post so I drew a red circle around it for you. Shots also appear in logs.

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I already provided the evidence that he did not kill the detective. Do you have anything that proves that he did kill the detective, though?

I slayed you because you RDMed, simple as that.

The logs aren't outdated, that's just a message what'll be removed soon. Even if it would be outdated, it wouldn't affect the logs.

Have a nice day.

 

There is an error with the logs. I don't know what is causing this, weather it is they might be outdated or somehow modified... But I know this:

I've been playing this game for a very long while. I know most of the rules, including the extanded ones.

I never RDM by choice, hell, I even felt bad that time I killed an innocent as a detective because the last traitor used a disguiser so he didn't show up on my radar.

The slays and RDMs are simply uncalled for. The logs somehow miss out information. And it sure as hell ain't coincidence it happened 4 times in a raw.

I guess you can't play this server without constantly recording to avoid messed up situations like that.

But even when you go the further mile to record, your logs seem to take more attention than an actual video proof.

Something here isn't working. And I know for a fact that it isn't me. And that something still needs to be fixed.

I'm not gonna let this slip by because in a week from today I can get the same treatment for playing the game by its rules.

The video recording is simply contrasted to the so called logs boo provided.

 

@Loldudethe6th Hey mate. I apologize for how long it took me to get in a response to this report.

To be blunt: I don't think that my moderator is at fault here at all. I've taken the time to get on the server and take a look at the old logs, and I want to stress how they are the same as the logs my moderator has presented here. The logs are also not an entity that my moderator is capable of altering or changing. There are rare cases where they are incorrect, but your video does not provide enough evidence to confidently state that they are. You are turned around when you are shot, and there are two people behind you, along with any number of people down the hallway that ducked out of sight after firing the shots. Due to this, as well as the fact that that player did not actually even shoot his gun, you were validly slain for one case of accidental RDM.

I'd like to take a moment to stress how I really do trust you in that you have no intentions of RDMing or causing issues on the servers. I've played with you many times and you've always been a good player to play with. Sometimes accidents happen though, and my moderator has provided evidence of all 3 cases of RDM that you did commit during that play session. You stated that you were slain an unfair amount of times, but I stress that the number of slays on you actually is following protocol. The first offense of RDM that you commit will be 1 slay. The second offense is 2 slays. You are slain twice for the second offense, which adds up to a total of 3 slays. It's very easy to misunderstand a situation in TTT and then accidentally kill the wrong person or think someone who didn't do anything actually did something.

I'd also like to suggest that you are more willing to take fault for your actions and look to accept and understand situations when you aren't aware of all the details. You make a number of heavily weighted statements in this report where you state that you hold no fault in this situation at all, which is clearly untrue based on your video and the evidence provided by my moderator.

Due to all of the evidence provided, and there being no reason to believe that the logs are just selectively not showing information, I have decided to mark this report as Invalid. If you want to talk further with me on the topic, I would be glad to talk with you over Steam or over a forum conversation, so please feel free to start one up with me should you want to! Thanks for taking the time to file this report, and I hope you have a good rest of your day.