Accepted ey nerf hk sl8

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It appears the issue here is that the Sl8 is being compared to the other snipers. There are a few issues with that.
The sl8 is a different class of weapon then any sniper. The HK sl8 is a DMR or a designated marksman rifle ... MARKSMAN being the key word. For those who do not know what a DMR is, it is a class of weapon used to gap the range of your average rifle and that of a SR.

Comparing a dmr to a sr is crazy if you are someone who conciders yourself a sniper. I will use some of my favorite sniping spots as an example. On albatros I will sit on the rocks in the bay and snipe. The furthest point you can see is the bridge on the tower. With a Sr it is a difficult shot to land. With the sl8 is is almost impossible to nail a headshot. The cone on the sl8 at that range is too great to be accurate.

On dolls I will sit on the shelfs under the bench. The furthest shot is the lower far corner under the desk. With a Sr it is a relitivly easy shot. With the sl8 it is a difficult shot with a nice cone to account for not to mention if you abuse its full auto you will be lucky if you get several hits much less a kill with how the gun walks.

Yes at close range the sl8 is deadly but when used for its actual purpose the sl8 is a last resort over a good sniper rifle. But anybody who is a good shot can take out a player using the sl8. The AK is a good counter to the sl8, just remember to jump so xpro can not nail them sick headshots.

To close out this rant. If you are using a sniper in close quarters semi automatic or bolt then you deserve to die. Do not be dumb.

 

As someone who plays airsoft quite often, I can say that DMRs will always outclass snipers(and even sometimes ARs) in close-to-medium range combat. If you want to kill a HK user, buy a sniper and run far away.

 

If we go with this, remove the fucking cone (make them zero) on bolt action snipers so you can actually consistently have headshots register at long range and not have to pray for RNG to be on your side cuz some genius decided to give snipers inaccuracy

 

The cone on the sniper is fine. I hit 90% of my headshots when shitreg is not a factor. If anything the sl8 should have a slightly greater cone then what it does but damage wise it is fine. The biggest change i could see being made to the sl8 is a .002 cone increase to place it more in the class of a DMR instead of a sniper. Damage and fire rate is fine, recoil is fine the automatic part of the sl8 makes up for the cone if you are using it more like an ar than a sr. If you use the sl8 like a sniper then you do not have to worry about the recoil as much as you do with the cone.

 

lets buff all the other weapons yes

 

I dont know how many times youve tried to headshot people across maps like teenroom or camel, but the snipers cone makes them so inconsistent at ''extremely'' long ranges (which is where they should shine over the SL8 and other guns) it's usually not even worth trying to go for a headshot.

 

If 75% of the server is using the ak and the hk I think they might be a tad bit broken

 

We've gone through this a million times and nothings changed. Can we just lock this to save people the trouble of going through the same shit over and over?

 

Your problem is not stats at that point it is optics. Yea that is a hell of a shot but if you are playing smart you would not pick the furthest points on the map to snipe from. And on teen room, that is a relitivly small map to be having an issue picking off headshots with a sr or sl8.

The reason nothing has been done to nerf the sl8 is because nobody provides sufficient proof it needs to be changed, its only complaints because the average player can not contest with the power and concistancy of a dmr.

 

im sorry for trying to use sniper to snipe at long ranges how could i have known thats not what it's for

 

lol its a 1 shot hs with 20 shots and a high rate of fire
doesn't that scream op to you
or are you one of the ones who gets 8 kills with the hk on a t round and call yourself good, even though anyone can do the same thing

 

I get on average 6 kills a t round ... I use the H.U.G.E to sink 4 of them, the poon to do another and a frag. This is not an argument of skill that I am making, meerly one based on fact which is severly lacking in these nerf/buff talks.

 

Ok, I have one question for you. What advantage do the other rifles have over the SL8? I said this before, but the SL8 basically does things better than other rifles other than bodyshot damage and maybe accuracy.

 

ok

 

Accuracy and range. A Sr has a better scope then the sl8 and some have a tighter cone depending on which you use. The only change that could reasonably be made to the sl8 to class it more as a dmr than a sr is to increase the cone slightly to classify it more as a dmr than a sr. The change that could be done would barely be noticible if at all to those who use it more like an ar than a sr. For those who use the sl8 to snipe it would be a huge change making every other sr a prefered over the sl8. As i said before a Designated Marksman Rifle is designed to gap between the average rifle and the sr. So high damage is to be expected, the range of efficiency should be lower than a sr but only slightly. Any reasonable nerf would not hinder our resident sl8 champ xpro because he uses it like an ar.

 

Just to clarify.

The content team had a weapon tweak for the HKSL8, the complaints were heard and the clip size was being reduced to 10 and the fire rate dropped.

If Highwon decides to push the work i did on the weapons its up to him but the HKSL8 has had tweaks made and SHOULD be pushed through... however we all know what happens with updates

 

The SL8 feels as accurate as the Scout/AWP. For me, viewing people at long ranges with the SL8 is a trivial task, camel, across the street in 67thway, It's not hard.



i secretly want this gun gut down like hog in overwatch

 

If anything should be tweaked it should be the cone to classify it as more of a dmr than a sr. .005 -> .008

 

Yeah but its not my problem anymore cause the content team was killed kappa