RDM Excuses

Discussion in 'TTT Suggestions' started by STONEY, Jan 25, 2016.

  1. STONEY

    STONEY I AM FIRE, I AM DEATH. VIP

    So unless there is solid evidence, someone can just go and be making lies left and right? While the unfortunate person getting RDMed again, and again, may not have a strong ability to grab the correct evidence they need to get the person caught up in their lies?
     
  2. Carned

    Carned ✘o ✘o VIP Silver Emerald


    By the logic a witness statement is invalid, which is bullshit.
     
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  3. Ravin

    Ravin Determination VIP

    This is the defination of loopholing. And they are banned for a much harsher duration.
     
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  4. Sadly, thats how it works, You need to work if you want to stop that, you cant just expect to hide under a Staff shadow and be protected, If they rdm you multiple times, record it
     
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  5. Thats why you can record/take screenshots


    I ALWAYS, and i mean ALWAYS record
     
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  6. Carned

    Carned ✘o ✘o VIP Silver Emerald

    So players who's PC's can't handle recording and playing should be punished?

    Hardly seems fair.
     
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  7. You can record on Gmod itself, it takes no memory whatsever, My gmod runs at most 30 FPS, and when i record it doesnt go down, and screenshots are advised too

    They say you went past unIDed body? Go to the air and take a screenshot
     
  8. AAAAAAAAAAAAA

    AAAAAAAAAAAAA coolgamer VIP

    If you cant record then you shouldn't bitch and cry about not having any evidence jesus fucking christ reading this thread made me angry
     
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  9. Ravin

    Ravin Determination VIP

    Not seeing how they are punished.

    I also have never met someone who could run Gmod, and not use Gmod to record. Even Anna's potato can record and she gets like 3FPS sometimes.

    But assuming there was, if a person gets RDM'd by the same person or multiple people, I have yet to have a staff member simply glaze over it and not investigate it further.

    If you find a staff member doing this, once more PM their admin or make a forum report. But I can almost promise you the Mod will provide valid reasoning against you nearly every single time why it was handled in the way it was.
     
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  10. Carned

    Carned ✘o ✘o VIP Silver Emerald

    Reading your comment gave me aids. Why should someone have to record just to get justice in a game? When THERE IS NO NEED TO RECORD.

    The point is, players shouldn't have to record just to feel like they will get justice.

    This whole "record everything" bullshit was never a thing months ago, people didnt feel the need to because their reports were done correctly.
     
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  11. 1st, You cant expect to have Justice if you dont put ANY effort in your part
    2nd, The server has changed, it has gotten much bigger, so bigger problems arise, and you need to know how to deal with them
     
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  12. Ravin

    Ravin Determination VIP

    If a player is loopholing and staff can't catch them right away, players have tools to assist staff in catching these people abusing the system.

    Just saying "I didn't pass it or hear it" doesn't make your report valid.

    If you feel a staff member isn't performing their duties. Speak with them or report them.
     
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  13. Carned

    Carned ✘o ✘o VIP Silver Emerald


    The whole idea of staff is to reduce the effort needed by players, at this rate we might as well make players use the RDM manger and do their own damn reports.

    It's gotten bigger, yes, but why should that mean players lose out? They shouldn't, just train the staff to do things properly and you wouldn't even have the problem in the first place, but then again it's a struggle to even have all the servers staffed nowadays.
     
  14. STONEY

    STONEY I AM FIRE, I AM DEATH. VIP

    But Here is the long process a player must go through to be able to get the person busted.

    1) Get RDMed and file a report against the person.

    2) Wait for Staff to investigate

    3) Ask Staff for reported person's response

    4) Explain to Staff that the reported person is lying

    5) Gather evidence of the person who RDMed you

    6) Show the evidence to Staff (At this point the staff can view your evidence and say that your evidence doesn't quite show what needs to be shown) Thus screwing you over cause that's the only evidence you were able to get.

    7) (If the evidence is good enough) Then what is it? Just an instant slay/ban or is there more to this process?
     
  15. There, you said it, players still need effort, not to just sit down and expect the staff to work in their favor
     
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  16. Anna

    Anna before we fade VIP

    Catching out loopholers is never an easy process. It requires the evidence to support the bans because, as Ravin already stated, said bans tend to be lengthier and harsher. If you do not have the evidence to back up the ban then it shouldn't be issued in the first place, hence why it may take a little longer than your usual cut and dry RDM report.
     
  17. Its not that hard, I have made a TON of reports, and only one (that was my first one) was denied, It does not requires a lot of effort, and if the evidence is definitive, the reports dont take more than 10 minutes or less

    And in response to the seven, you are not enouraged to report single RDM reports
     
  18. Ravin

    Ravin Determination VIP

    Everyone deserves the same chance you get when a report is filed against them.

    No exceptions.
     
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  19. Carned

    Carned ✘o ✘o VIP Silver Emerald

    Effort does not equal recording every breathing moment they play the servers.

    Effort is bothering to make reports, being honest and helpful to staff.
     
  20. Ravin

    Ravin Determination VIP

    You can't expect staff to take your word over someone elses if the evidence doesn't support the report.

    That's favoritism/bias and isn't permitted. Sorry.

    Edit - Staff should be making reports for unreported damage as well. You bothering to make a report or not is irreverent.
     
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