Invalid Report against Satori

Name of Staff/Player:

Satori, Added: Petermh, Jusitce​

Steam ID of Staff/Player:

STEAM_0:1:38763023, Added: ID unavailable to me currently, ID unavailable to me currently​

Which Server:

Vanilla​

Which Map:

Both Maps​

Which Round:

First instance, 2 rounds before the map change in the Town map, Next: First round in MC B5, next is 6 round remaining, Next 4 rounds remaining​

Time of Occurence:

12:50pm - 1:33pm​

Reason For Report:

MASS RDM, Loopholing, Toxic Behavior, Ghosting

First time: I was not a traitor, I was only holding a harpooned body that was ID'd. Did nothing traitorous (No logs)

Second time: I was a traitor who stood stationary in one stop for the entire round and was killed in the water, still stationary while doing nothing traitorous was killed.

Third time: Killed me while I was a traitor, just exited the nether portal and upon being seen was killed.

Fourth time: I hid in teh same spot (Rocks behind the cliff near the T room) and barely into the round did not kill anyone or do anything traitorous and was killed immediatelly.

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Evidence And/Or Witnesses:

@Turquoise
@Pugrus
@Shadowsources
@forcie

Logs

Spoiler: 2nd occurence

00:49.36 - DMG: brandonplays44 [innocent] damaged DarkInferno [detective] for 5 dmg
00:58.86 - SAMPLE: DarkInferno retrieved DNA of brandonplays44 from corpse of Tryndamere
01:02.47 - DMG: MR T0BS [innocent] damaged KBMAN [traitor] for 134 dmg
01:02.47 - KILL: MR T0BS [innocent] killed KBMAN [traitor]
01:19.14 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged Serpentail [innocent] for 125 dmg
01:19.14 - KILL: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] killed Serpentail [innocent]
01:25.47 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged Gabriela Depp [innocent] for 4 dmg
01:25.86 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged Gabriela Depp [innocent] for 5 dmg
01:26.06 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged Gabriela Depp [innocent] for 4 dmg
01:26.45 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged Gabriela Depp [innocent] for 6 dmg
01:38.02 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged MR T0BS [innocent] for 125 dmg
01:38.02 - KILL: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] killed MR T0BS [innocent]
01:41.88 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged turQuoise #FJidS [traitor] for 5 dmg
01:41.92 - DMG: Max [innocent] damaged [E2L] WhiteDeath [innocent] for 21 dmg
01:42.03 - DMG: Max [innocent] damaged [E2L] WhiteDeath [innocent] for 12 dmg
01:45.48 - DMG: [E2L] WhiteDeath [innocent] damaged Max [innocent] for 21 dmg
01:45.59 - DMG: [E2L] WhiteDeath [innocent] damaged Max [innocent] for 21 dmg
01:45.70 - DMG: [E2L] WhiteDeath [innocent] damaged Max [innocent] for 21 dmg
01:45.80 - DMG: [E2L] WhiteDeath [innocent] damaged Max [innocent] for 21 dmg
01:45.91 - DMG: [E2L] WhiteDeath [innocent] damaged Max [innocent] for 21 dmg
01:45.91 - KILL: [E2L] WhiteDeath [innocent] killed Max [innocent]
01:49.70 - DMG: turQuoise #FJidS [traitor] damaged Justice [innocent] for 35 dmg
02:00.39 - DMG: Gabriela Depp [innocent] damaged atozbetterdanu [innocent] for 37 dmg
02:01.55 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged Robokiller87 [traitor] for 47 dmg
02:01.94 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged Robokiller87 [traitor] for 18 dmg
02:02.33 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged Robokiller87 [traitor] for 47 dmg
02:02.33 - KILL: Satori [innocent] killed Robokiller87 [traitor]

Spoiler: 3rd occurence

*** Damage log:
00:07.82 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged B.B's_My_Name [innocent] for 20 dmg
00:09.23 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged B.B's_My_Name [innocent] for 37 dmg
00:12.89 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged B.B's_My_Name [innocent] for 8 dmg
00:13.20 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged B.B's_My_Name [innocent] for 8 dmg
00:13.27 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged B.B's_My_Name [innocent] for 8 dmg
00:13.71 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged B.B's_My_Name [innocent] for 14 dmg
00:13.94 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged benkip [innocent] for 8 dmg
00:14.02 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged benkip [innocent] for 8 dmg
00:14.70 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged B.B's_My_Name [innocent] for 14 dmg
00:14.70 - KILL: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] killed B.B's_My_Name [innocent]
00:15.38 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged benkip [innocent] for 8 dmg
00:15.76 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged benkip [innocent] for 8 dmg
00:15.83 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged benkip [innocent] for 8 dmg
00:25.55 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged turQuoise #FJidS [detective] for 104 dmg
00:25.55 - KILL: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] killed turQuoise #FJidS [detective]
00:46.59 - DMG: Justice [traitor] damaged Gabriela Depp [innocent] for 200 dmg
00:46.59 - KILL: Justice [traitor] killed Gabriela Depp [innocent]
00:55.14 - SAMPLE: Toast on Fire retrieved DNA of Ooohh Baby a triple!!! from corpse of B.B's_My_Name
00:58.92 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged Pugrus [innocent] for 148 dmg
00:58.92 - KILL: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] killed Pugrus [innocent]
01:19.21 - DMG: PabloQ [innocent] damaged Venturian [traitor] for 358 dmg
01:19.21 - KILL: PabloQ [innocent] killed Venturian [traitor]
01:26.26 - DMG: Tha Kiwi [innocent] damaged COLOSSUS [innocent] for 122 dmg
01:26.26 - KILL: Tha Kiwi [innocent] killed COLOSSUS [innocent]
01:26.38 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged PabloQ [innocent] for 6 dmg
01:27.18 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged PabloQ [innocent] for 11 dmg
01:27.98 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged PabloQ [innocent] for 33 dmg
01:33.00 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged Vestigen TheyH8UsCuzTheyAnus [innocent] for 125 dmg
01:33.00 - KILL: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] killed Vestigen TheyH8UsCuzTheyAnus [innocent]
01:33.00 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged Leaving Reality [innocent] for 125 dmg
01:33.00 - KILL: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] killed Leaving Reality [innocent]
01:33.00 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged Zach Pfann [innocent] for 28 dmg
01:38.24 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged [MPP] -pg-™ CLASSIFIED [innocent] for 5 dmg
01:39.62 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged [MPP] -pg-™ CLASSIFIED [innocent] for 5 dmg
01:40.17 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged PabloQ [innocent] for 22 dmg
01:40.17 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged PabloQ [innocent] for 11 dmg
01:40.17 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged PabloQ [innocent] for 11 dmg
01:44.83 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged PabloQ [innocent] for 33 dmg
01:44.83 - KILL: Satori [innocent] killed PabloQ [innocent]
01:55.71 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
01:55.83 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
01:55.89 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
01:55.95 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
01:56.08 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 15 dmg
01:56.14 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
01:56.20 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
01:56.26 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
01:56.38 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
01:56.50 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
01:56.62 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
02:02.33 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
02:02.39 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 4 dmg
02:02.52 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged Max [innocent] for 7 dmg
02:02.52 - KILL: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] killed Max [innocent]
02:04.20 - DMG: brandonjbi13 [innocent] damaged TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] for 50 dmg
02:05.15 - DMG: brandonjbi13 [innocent] damaged TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] for 11 dmg
02:05.15 - DMG: brandonjbi13 [innocent] damaged TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] for 11 dmg
02:05.15 - KILL: brandonjbi13 [innocent] killed TheHeadlessGamer [traitor]
02:17.79 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged brandonjbi13 [innocent] for 4 dmg
02:17.98 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged brandonjbi13 [innocent] for 5 dmg
02:17.98 - DMG: TheHeadlessGamer [traitor] damaged brandonjbi13 [innocent] for 5 dmg
02:19.00 - DMG: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] damaged Toast on Fire [detective] for 104 dmg
02:19.00 - KILL: Ooohh Baby a triple!!! [traitor] killed Toast on Fire [detective]
02:21.53 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged Robokiller87 [traitor] for 31 dmg
02:22.39 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged Robokiller87 [traitor] for 62 dmg
02:23.20 - DMG: Satori [innocent] damaged Robokiller87 [traitor] for 55 dmg
02:23.20 - KILL: Satori [innocent] killed Robokiller87 [traitor]

4th time, no logs.


Admittance to suspicion KOS on susp.: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=380679649​

 

I've been told by forcie this person had reasoning against me being "Next to an unid'd body" I REQUEST that logs be shown to prove this to be TRUE as I am INSANELY disgruntled because this person acts EXACTLY like Hyperbird. Show WHO is unid'd, who GOT id'd AFTER my death IF by Satori. He has done this SEVERAL times and should back HIMSELF up.

I'm not going to let this go until each and every instance is examined explicitly and come to a conclusion of truly word vs. word. I have never had a more unpleasurable experience in STTT, and to those who know me... I am out of character right now. I am unbelievably upset and I really HOPE someone PLEASE looks into this.

If I knew he'd be a loopholing troll, I'd take several demos. NOT THE CASE OF COURSE.


Each time in MC B5. I died BEHIND the CLIFFS of the tester in the little area of between the cliffs and rocks by his hands. I know my word cannot be trusted more than another, but the fact that he claims such nonsensical reasons is unallowable. HE ADMITTED, IN CHAT, I WAS SUSPICIOUS. This was during the 3rd occurrence, and I am not sure when he was slain just once for one of these occurrences. He CLAIMS to say "I was around an unid'd body" when I explicitly say and I repeat "I was not around any unid'd bodies, did nothing traitorous, I was merely sitting alone and he was the only one to have seen me." I never killed a single person in any of the games I was RDM'd maybe just one. Would you THINK it is purely coincidence that HE killed ME EACH time for being near an UNID'd BODY? Is this not STRANGE?

If he is not dealt with, I'll make sure he is in the future and surely post on here again to prove that, "Yes, he was loopholing. "

I am disgusted with my attitude typing this all out right now, and disgusted by the situation. I don't normally lose my cool, but I am not taking this sitting down. If he is not dealt with here, I'll sure as hell guarantee I'll get his trolling ass banned in the future.

God, I am so upset with myself. forcie is doing a good job and god bless him for taking on Vanilla, but I really really require round logs to further investigate this.

And just for some entertainment, of all the reports since the first one I have made on this forum all have been found valid. This may be the toughest one to prove, but I am not going to lose my streak here. Sorry for my unbelievably upset behavior here.


As we all know for the most part "Unid'd" is easily the most exploitable loophole out of all the rules. Since there are logs of who is dead and unid'd, and who was eventually id'd, there should seriously be some mending to the rule to say "Who was the unid'd body" to see if it matches w/ the logs. It'd at least save most instances where

- Two people alone, and one is RDM'd and kiled for "unid'd" and the other gets away alive. If they were to provide a name and it didn't match up, there's a lie.
They would not necessarily know who is unid'd at that point, and could resort to using "Oh this guy was just id'd by the chat in the top right." Well, witnesses. Ask the person who did ID the body if the person who was RDM'd was around this unid'd body.

 

@forcie already stated that he dealt with this report and found it invalid earlier in shoutbox when you brought it up. He will respond at his earliest conveniecne with his reasoning on why this is the case. Until then, please be patient.

 

I have talked with @Guilty over Steam about this and absolutely understand if this is to be found invalid in the future. @forcie did what he could of the issue at the time, and since I was so upset about it all hours ago when I made this report, obviously, I left in a fit of useless rage instead of talking it over with forcie. Sadly, all that can be done now is for me to request the round logs for these rounds, I'd have to say the rounds that were in MC_B5 seeing that he does not have the report on Satori from MC_Town, and go over them to prove that unfortunately nothing more can be done about Satori based off the fact his reasoning for killing me has to be taken as a possibility due to the logs showing the status of unid'd bodies. If this is found invalid, look forward in the future for another report on Satori that will be valid.

A serious question I have is: Which occurrence was Satori slain for? One of the 3 rounds should be undeniably RDM based off of logs for the 4th occurrence which I stupidly did not receive the logs for shows I died 10 seconds into the round or so.

I'd like to bring up that the picture I posted from the 3rd occurrence shows he RDM'd me twice, officially.

I'd also like to add on that Satori is most certainly trolling with a user named "Justice" from what I noticed and surely will return to harass others when Vanilla is staffless.

 

As I have been tagged inside of the original post as a witness:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvtnpzu5io5omej/VanillaIsEvil.dem?dl=0

I'm not exactly sure if this is the right demo, but I'd like for any one of you to take a look through it as I believe it may help towards this report.

 

The demo is fairly long, but I was UNAWARE of the fact that Justice was playing when I was getting destroyed by Satori. AS YOU CAN SEE, in the demo, Justice was a T, and Satori was RDMing w/ on staff online and a Traitor no less was being RDM'd.

Understandably, one incident may not be enough to convict them, but I feel this is more than enough for a ban. Justice played stupid when Satori was obviously RDMing the AFK T, which could easily be connected to ghosting.

Undeniable that Satori was indeed breaking rules. @Turquoise

Though not caught officially, this was recorded during the fourth time I was RDM'd by Satori and unfortunately was not caught on video as it was about 5 seconds too late.

 

Hello Robokiller.
First let me say that your frustration is only natural. Nobody will blame you for this.

I did slay Satori once for this report against him, as he killed you on suspicion.

Spoiler

The other two reports you had made against him created a word vs word situation which made it impossible for me to slay him unless you had video evidence.

Spoiler

And this was our short (but powerful ) conversation

Spoiler

I will tag my .. admin.. @Sinz aswell.

 

Alright. Time to break this apart.

The first spoiler's picture is broken. From the looks of it, that was the round which you joined in and slayed him, and is the round that Turq recorded. This was the 4th occurrence.

As for the other two.

The first report: The first one as you can see he unnecessarily added in "Acting Suspicious" passed an unid'd body. This doesn't make too much sense, and I'll point out that that report occurred during which I questioned Satori in the picture I posted in the original post showing in fact he only killed me on suspicion and just added the unid'd body to make it invalid. This was the 3rd occurrence.

The last report: Could you possibly obtain the log rounds, not before my death but of what transpired earlier so there is without a doubt no way to disprove his reason? If I remember, logs are kept of the people who are id'd and unid'd and if there wasn't any substantial number (or probably anyone unid'd at all), then it would be in fact RDM and loopholing. With what is present at this moment, I cannot say much about the obvious to me, invalidity, of the report. This was the 2nd occurrence.

I also hope that @forcie will watch the demo to show he was doing suspicious behavior that could be ghosting w/ Justice as well as RDMing w/o staff on w/ a Discombob.

 

As you can see here, the detective "Toast on fire" was already shot, and only identified after you were killed. (Round 5)


As you can see here, Mr T0bs got killed, and was not ID'd before your death. (Round 1)

 

Ill eventually look into this, but I feel that Demo could disprove that Toast was the "possible unid'd" body that Satori did not describe.

So, that aside for now, what do you make of all the other evidence (demo) as well as my explanation of the report I talked about in my previous post?

 

As mods we can collect and gather evidence against loophole trollers. However it is up to our admins, who have the discretion to handle with this.
As for the bodies go, from my experience there is always a few unid'd bodies laying around. I just took the easiest example. But I am 99% sure that there will be multiple bodies still unid'd in that period.

I hope this has helped, and an admin will look into this matter further

 

More evidence towards his toxic trollish behavior: https://www.mediafire.com/?gwg9udczm4xr5sd

@Sinz
@glaceonsamus
@Python
@Pleb

So, now present there is a demo of Justice + Satori doing suspicious work, as well as him purposely delaying w/o no staff on to create a 9+ min fun round w/ someone named Petermh. Obviously, something is going on. Just posting this.

Edit: I'm now leaving this alone and will look forward to a verdict, if one is to be given soon, about these players and will post more useful evidence to get them banned once obtained.

 

The actions of these players have been noted. Although, the only reason a punishment for this 9+ minute delay was not given aside from the fact that a staff member was not present during the round is because I expected to witness a ban-worthy attempt to get out a slay on Satori's part considering that his friend, elyina, was banned for hacking. Satori and his friends are most definitely in my cross hairs.

 

I'm confused on the subject of how sprays work on this server. I get notifications saying that pressing alt on sprays will tell me the owner of the spray, but I don't see sprays anywhere on the server. I can't post sprays either. Is it a donator only thing?

 

How does that have anything to do with this report against you?

 

Absolutely nothing. It seemed like a waste to make a thread for a single question, though.

 

We'll watch this one, Robo.